<![CDATA[Fields color not appearing]]>Hello
I'm a bit stumped with a field color issue. I have a set of nested clones, that are being affected by a plain effector with Modify Clone on. The Plain effector has a random field which is affecting color.
For some reason the color is not appearing for me in my setup.
What am I missing?

Here is the file
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0m937kp3kc9ruon96qmkp/Quadtree_1.c4d?rlkey=eb3uiffs245os44iekgnkqus3&dl=0

Thank you!

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/topic/1663/fields-color-not-appearingRSS for NodeMon, 13 Apr 2026 07:42:17 GMTSat, 01 Feb 2025 20:53:11 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Tue, 04 Feb 2025 18:03:26 GMT]]>Thank you very much, AlexC,

I'm glad to hear that it works for you.

Enjoy!

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6387https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6387Tue, 04 Feb 2025 18:03:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Tue, 04 Feb 2025 10:21:18 GMT]]>This is a fantastic solution! And so customizable! Thank you so much Sassi.
The scene is very speedy and responsive.
Thank you again!

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6385https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6385Tue, 04 Feb 2025 10:21:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Mon, 03 Feb 2025 22:31:41 GMT]]>Hi AlexC,

Thanks again for the File and for using DropBox.

CV4_2025_drs_25_MGqt_31.c4d

I have used an Atom Array here to create the lines.
This allows for a quick adjustment of the line size in the Atom Arryay itself. Spheres and Cylinder. (Cylinder can't be larger than Spheres)
The Edge material shows good results typically, but not with N-Gons, hence the triangles during render time. The Atom Array uses only the edges given.
.
Some other adjustments that I hope support your work.
.
I have switched off Global Illumination, as a flat and front-lit object has no need for that; it just would take more time.
.
I have set the camera in the center of the "plane," so it is straight on. In the past, the camera had a 36mm focal length, equal to the"Sensor Size"; sadly, someone changed that to 35mm. Well, it is easily adjusted. With 36mm, the object's width of the object is equal to the camera's distance to get a perfect fit to the render format. This allows them to have no trouble with rotation values either.
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What I didn't change:
Using the material as Emission Color and Weight set to one, while all others are set to zero instead, might accelerate even more. But I think the GI set to off does it already (speed-wise).

My best wishes for your project.

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6384https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6384Mon, 03 Feb 2025 22:31:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Mon, 03 Feb 2025 21:31:41 GMT]]>Yes, that makes sense 🙂
Could you help me with a rendering issue? I tried this with the standard renderer and Cel Render, as well as with the wireframe render in RS, but I'm still getting a lot of hidden lines appearing in my render.
Here is my file, this is specifically with the method that was put in place by Jonas Pilz in the video you sent, which is quite handy because I can just save the node modifier and add it to different things. I followed his recommendation of adding a multiply node to avoid these diagonal subdivisions from appearing, but even though they don't appear in the viewport, they are still there in the render.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/05lwkiyrlj3xbvcz1juoo/QuadTreeNodeMod_Wireframe_CV.c4d?rlkey=1bfc9mhgfwvfejig4tkq22jxz&dl=0
Thanks for any suggestions!

Cinema_4D_NDGpyBJnKZ.png

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6383https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6383Mon, 03 Feb 2025 21:31:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Mon, 03 Feb 2025 20:06:39 GMT]]>You're welcome AlexC.,

There is no fixed point to begin with; everything is moving. This means if there is something to select with a fixed focal point, it is only on the level of the TOP (last executed) Cloner—the top Parent.

My fake was not a selection but an extra manually animated element.

Or do I miss something?

Cheers

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6382https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6382Mon, 03 Feb 2025 20:06:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Mon, 03 Feb 2025 19:58:16 GMT]]>Hey Sassi, I think this technique could work. How did you select that polygon? I suppose it would be possible to just stop the animation at a given point and extract it?

In the video you shared with Jonas Pilz and Noseman, their setup allows for selections, but these selections are of each level of subdivision. Would there be a way to extract a single Polygon (or group of polygons) from that selection?

Thanks!

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6381https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6381Mon, 03 Feb 2025 19:58:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Mon, 03 Feb 2025 19:11:56 GMT]]>Hi AlexC,

I might miss a point, so I share this.

Based on the initial project file, each Cloner produced four Clones. Then the next one, four of these, etc.

Since the last four clones of the top Cloner are the only ones that can be selected, given a fixed place, that would be too little.
All previous clone results will move things around.

From a practical point of view, if the target would be the smallest of the squares, then stopping that one would also require having three of the neighbor squares stopped, so anything else might change. But well, that is also no longer fully given.

In other words, to fake it. But following the "pseudo fractal rules" (missing a better term here!) of that setup, it won't work either, except for the largest square (below the overall square.)

Here is a fake example:

CV4_2025_drs_25_MGqt_02.c4d

Cheers

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6380https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6380Mon, 03 Feb 2025 19:11:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Mon, 03 Feb 2025 18:32:12 GMT]]>Ah got it! Thanks Sassi, that's super interesting.

I do have a follow up question though, with any of these setups : do you see a way to "lock in" to any of the subdivisions individually? I'm trying to create an effect where everything is moving and subdividing, but one polygon "stops" and I can use 4 points to connect splines to it, or extrude it?

Thanks!

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6378https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6378Mon, 03 Feb 2025 18:32:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Mon, 03 Feb 2025 17:56:52 GMT]]>Hi AlexC,

It is the Field Driver, the Tag on the object. It changes the parameter(s) based (in this case) on the Noise Field.
https://help.maxon.net/c4d/2025/en-us/Default.htm#html/TFIELDDRIVER.html

Enjoy

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6376https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6376Mon, 03 Feb 2025 17:56:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Mon, 03 Feb 2025 10:00:45 GMT]]>That's interesting, but how does it work? I tried disabling the Plain Effector, and the effect still works (just not the color), but I can't see how? I see you have an animated remapping contour, but I don't see how the polygons are getting subdivided?

Thanks!

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6373https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6373Mon, 03 Feb 2025 10:00:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Sun, 02 Feb 2025 21:37:14 GMT]]>P.S.: This would be the simplest way to get something similar.

It is mainly based on the Field-Driver

CV4_2025_drs_25_MGqt_21.c4d

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6369https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6369Sun, 02 Feb 2025 21:37:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Sun, 02 Feb 2025 19:42:12 GMT]]>You're very welcome, AlexC!

I'm glad this works for you.

Enjoy

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6366https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6366Sun, 02 Feb 2025 19:42:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Sun, 02 Feb 2025 19:08:34 GMT]]>Ah that's so great, many ways to achieve this.
Thank you for the clarification on Instance vs MoInstance, that makes sense.

Thank you Sassi!

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6365https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6365Sun, 02 Feb 2025 19:08:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Sun, 02 Feb 2025 18:56:05 GMT]]>Hi AlexC,

There is a difference between MoInstance and Instance. Both have a different use.

CV4_2025_drs_25_MGqt_01.c4d

The tutorial uses Instances, not MoInstances.
https://help.maxon.net/c4d/2025/en-us/Default.htm#html/OINSTANCE.html
https://help.maxon.net/c4d/2025/en-us/Default.htm#html/OMOGRAPH_INSTANCE.html

I have swapped them out, and it works as suggested.

Here is a simple alternative from the Asset Browser, and several can be applied as child objects, which allows for several Seed values.
CV4_2025_drs_25_MGqt_11.c4d

My best wishes for your project

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6364https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6364Sun, 02 Feb 2025 18:56:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Sun, 02 Feb 2025 17:26:03 GMT]]>Hey Sassi! That reference is great, I'm going to dig into that as I'm still very lacking in knowledge about nodes.
But the tutorial I'm following is here, and strangely in his case it is working fine?
https://youtu.be/yF0qBxbjAwk?si=l8t9_Ooh_qyoW8LK&t=71
I'm wondering if something changed with C4d versions as this is 4 years old?

Thank you!

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6363https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6363Sun, 02 Feb 2025 17:26:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Sun, 02 Feb 2025 06:24:54 GMT]]>P.S.: Perhaps that works for you.
The original files can be downloaded in the text below the video
https://www.youtube.com/live/uO2YLMfwgv0?t=2548&feature=shared

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6362https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6362Sun, 02 Feb 2025 06:24:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Fields color not appearing on Sat, 01 Feb 2025 23:29:41 GMT]]>Hi AlexC,

Thanks for the file and for using DropBox

I get the Colors when the plain Effector/Field is applied to the MoInstance. (The one under the parent Instances.)

Is that what you need?

Cheers

]]>https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6359https://cineversity.forums.maxon.net/post/6359Sat, 01 Feb 2025 23:29:41 GMT