Alright thank you for the answer.

but looking at the example I posted above: https://80.lv/articles/a-realistic-eye-rig-made-by-yoshimitsu-maruo/
or this top-level stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueYtM2KprqY

notice the way eyelids and area around the eyes reacts to moving eyeball direction. I just can't get this in cinema, I tried with a eye rig and posemorph... and I've been searching for weeks and found 0/ZERO tutorials on this, paid or free.

So I'm left wondering is advanced face rigging like in the examples even possible in Cinema4D?

how would one do something like this (eyelids\nearby muscles of the face follow the eye direction)?

https://80.lv/articles/a-realistic-eye-rig-made-by-yoshimitsu-maruo/

like in twitter vid

I managed to dig out this ancient tutorial for C4D https://www.cineversity.com/vidplaytut/eyeball_and_eyelid_interaction

but it's so obsolete current cinema doesn't even have weight effector. there must be some new workflow that I'm unable to find online.

How do people learn these skills...? Solely from seniors if they get to work for some company? are there any high quality advanced in-depth paid tutorials for rigging\skinning in C4D? I did search but found nothing, mostly just very simple stuff and 90% rigging tuts are for maya or blender.