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Question: I don't understand why Subdivision on the Lathe + Cloth Surface for thickness creates hole

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    leoleeCGI last edited by Dr. Sassi Oct 14, 2023, 6:04 AM Oct 14, 2023, 5:37 AM

    I'm modeling a simple mug cup using "Spline."
    I used "Lathe" and "Cloth Surface" for thickness.
    But when "Subdivision Surface" is applied it creates a hole.

    I wonder whether there is way to fix the issue.
    I attached screenshot and c4d file.

    Thank you for your time and help.

    00_Hierarchy.png
    05_Subdivision.jpg
    04_Subdivision.jpg
    mug_0001.c4d

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    • Dr. Sassi
      Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Oct 14, 2023, 6:03 AM Oct 14, 2023, 6:03 AM

      Hi leoleeCGI,

      Thanks for the Project file.

      Please have a look here:

      CV4_2024_drs_23_MOcc_01.c4d

      I have added a Connect Object with a minimal tolerance. This connects the created points and merges them into one (or one outside, one inside, to be precise), so the SDS doesn't pull those apart, no hole.

      Besides that, I have added a small suggestion on how that shape can be achieved very quickly.

      All the best

      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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      • Dr. Sassi
        Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Oct 14, 2023, 6:16 AM Oct 14, 2023, 6:13 AM

        P.S.: Instead of Cloth Surface, try also Thicken, especially since the Selections are great for using different materials.

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        CV4_2024_drs_23_MOcc_11.c4d

        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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          leoleeCGI last edited by Oct 14, 2023, 6:20 AM

          Hi Dr.Sassi

          Thank you very much for your response and your project files!
          I didn't know about the "Connect" and "Thicken" tool. It's great to learn about it. Thank you again!

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          • Dr. Sassi
            Dr. Sassi last edited by Oct 14, 2023, 6:24 AM

            Thanks for the kind reply, leoleeCGI.

            Thanks a swell for being open to exploring.

            The Connect object tries to find points close to each other, sometimes leading to unwanted results. To be able to rule over this, the Tolerance value is crucial.

            Have a great weekend.

            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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