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    • L
      LAB - CH last edited by

      Hi everyone, has anyone noticed an issue when importing STEP files into Cinema 4D?
      Specifically, when I import an instanced element with child objects, instead of creating a null object with the instances underneath it, it creates an instance with the child instances that make up the parent.
      This results in duplicate geometry, which is problematic for rendering.

      This issue was not present before version 2024.
      I am currently using version 2024.3.2.

      The image will certainly help illustrate this:
      WRONG import:
      9ef47654-b9ca-4143-82ab-3153130c02a8-image.png

      CORRECT import:
      7d132094-2c4f-4e85-b66a-fa3e3d06874e-image.png

      Thanks in advance

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      • Dr. Sassi
        Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

        Hi LAB-CH,

        It is not fun, and I am sorry you have to endure this, but I can't see a fix since 2024.3.2
        https://support.maxon.net/hc/en-us/articles/8658038724124-Cinema-4D-2024-4-1-May-28-2024

        I'm not a big fan of guessing, but I'd rather have the file here. Let us try these three things.

        What happens when you make the Parent editable? (C- key)
        To work around this, you could create a Null and use the replace function
        https://help.maxon.net/c4d/en-us/?_gl=11323nba_gcl_au*NjgyMjc2OTg1LjE3MTc1NTc3NjY.#html/68788.html

        What object is in theParent linked to, and what happens when this is deleted?

        Anyway, this is a case for tech support:
        https://www.maxon.net/en/support-center

        If you have a small file (Please use Dropbox, Google, Apple, Adobe, or Wetransfer; anything else is ignored for security reasons, sorry)
        If I can reproduce it, I can file the report.

        All the best

        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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          LAB - CH @LAB - CH last edited by

          Hello Mr. Sassi,
          thanks for your kind reply.

          Unfortunately, I cannot share with you the file because it contains a lot of sensitive data of the client.
          In any case, I will create a file that makes the same issues during the import as soon as I can.
          The file is made in Solidworks and exported in step (350Mb)

          The replace with option is the best, it simply removes the instance and replaces it with a null with the same naming, bringing the situation as per a correct import.

          If I press "C" I get a new null with underneath the instances, also here double geometries
          33f0bace-99e0-414a-8f22-d616b0da29b4-image.png

          The parent Instance is linked to a null with underneath a null containing geometries or other instances
          As you can see here:
          e4ddeed9-f19b-4678-908a-e3a9d8aadab9-image.png

          I'll be back to you with the file that replicates this error.

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          • Dr. Sassi
            Dr. Sassi last edited by

            Thank you very much for your efforts and patience, LAB-CH.

            With a file that allows me to replicate the problem, I can work in the best way to file a report.

            Will the following work with the C treatment:
            Object Manger> Object> Delete without Children

            Cheers
            Dr. Sassi

            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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              LAB - CH last edited by

              Here are the files, there are also the source files from Solidworks.
              https://we.tl/t-ZnXSqmC8Kl

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              • Dr. Sassi
                Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

                Thank you very much, LAB-CH.

                Here is my result importing the LEVEL_00.step

                Screenshot 2024-06-04 at 11.25.06 PM.jpg

                This is done with 2024.4 on a Mac M1

                Since there was no mentioning of a fix, I'm not sure hwere the problem starts. In other words, if it makes sense to use 2024.4
                If you have a chance to check this out, if your setup allows this (Production based freeze for updates, etc.), that might work.

                All the best

                Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                • L
                  LAB - CH last edited by

                  Currently, I cannot update the software, but I can work around this issue by replacing what causes problems in rendering.

                  Anyway, it would be great if Maxon could investigate this issue.
                  Is it something you can report to them, or do I need to contact the support team?
                  It would be great to have this issue fixed in the next release.

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                  • Dr. Sassi
                    Dr. Sassi last edited by

                    Thanks for the extra time, LAB-CH.

                    It seems you are in the middle of a project; I will take the file and images and create a report. But I guess the reply will be, how about the current version.

                    Anyway, perhaps it helps to prevent future problems.

                    All the best

                    Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                    Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                    Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                    • L
                      LAB - CH last edited by

                      Hello Dr. Sassi,
                      unfortunately also in version 2025 the issues during the import of a model is still present, did you get any feedback from your report??

                      Thank You!

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                      • Dr. Sassi
                        Dr. Sassi last edited by

                        Hi LAB-CH,

                        I'm sorry about this.

                        If there is no change, I suggest checking with tech support.

                        https://www.maxon.net/en/support-center

                        Or did you check with them when I suggested the above? What was the reply, if so?

                        Sorry if my input has not shown any progress so far.

                        Have a great start to your week.

                        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                          LAB - CH last edited by

                          Honestly, I didn’t realize I was supposed to open a ticket with the support team; I thought you were going to handle it. Anyway, I’ll take care of it in the next few days!

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                          • Dr. Sassi
                            Dr. Sassi last edited by

                            Thanks for clearing that, LAB-CH.

                            The tech support case should be always direct. Otherwise, I would act as a middle person, and anything becomes delayed, so I suggested it.
                            Without your file, my report would have little value in solving your problem.
                            I can write reports, but that is a different place, not a tech support database.

                            Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for your patience.

                            Cheers

                            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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