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  • G
    guarantee-topic last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 7:59 PM

    I made a spline, extruded it and applied balloon effect (cloth tag). I want the edges to be flat like mylar balloon and achieved it with a vertex map in mixed animation. Vertex map is based on the spline.
    All works well until I try to move the balloon with gravity. Balloon is fixed in position and not moving with the gravity.
    Any creative solution to this?

    I tried to upload but can not make it small enough, can we increase the upload file size?
    Thnks

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    • G
      guarantee-topic last edited by Dec 27, 2024, 8:16 PM

      Here is a dropbox link;
      https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/oetv62nzhmtb5rn65gj7m/heart.c4d?rlkey=uajj77b9xoida5rnxnwy3mi1b&st=xf4n5b79&dl=0

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      • Dr. Sassi
        Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Dec 28, 2024, 8:27 AM Dec 27, 2024, 10:44 PM

        Hi guarantee-topic,

        Thanks for the file, and for using Dropbox.

        I would lower the Remesh to 33%, but that is a question of art direction.

        Add some noise to the Vertex-Map, to support the typical folds in those balloons

        To avoid having to Remesh every single frame and for other reasons (see below) I would use the Current State To Object [CSTO] function (the CSTO object will work already with Gravity.)

        The resulting mesh is animated without Gravity and turned into an Alembic file.

        This alembic file is then equipped with a Simulation tag

        The Gravity might be animated, or the empty balloon might just fall from the beginning.

        https://projectfiles.maxon.net/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2024_PROJECTS_DRS/20241227_CV4_2025_drs_24_SIbh_01.zip

        Screenshot 2024-12-27 at 2.43.13 PM.jpg

        This is a quick set up, you might refine it.

        Is this working for your project?

        An alternative to the Vertex Map could be the Simulation> Connector with a Point Selection.
        https://projectfiles.maxon.net/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2024_PROJECTS_DRS/20241228_CV4_2025_drs_24_SIbh_21c4d.zip

        Cheers

        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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        • G
          guarantee-topic last edited by Dec 28, 2024, 2:02 PM

          perfection... thank you

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          • Dr. Sassi
            Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Dec 28, 2024, 7:54 PM Dec 28, 2024, 7:27 PM

            Thank you very much, guarantee-topic, for the feedback.

            I wish you a lot of success with the project.

            Screenshot 2024-12-28 at 11.49.23 AM.jpg

            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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