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    • Dr. Sassi
      Dr. Sassi last edited by

      Hi Jon Lewis,

      The easiest way to reproduce this is when I have Redshift enabled. Then the Compositing Tag is not working anymore, as it is not an RS-compatible option with Object Buffers.

      Is this file working?
      https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230307_CV4_2023_drs_23_AEcw_01.c4d.zip

      All the best

      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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        alcohol-efficiency last edited by

        Thanks so much! So I tried it with your file and I'm still having the same result with the object buffer selections between After Effects versions AE 22 and AE 23. I'm not using Redshift on these, so not sure if that matters. I did need to add the object buffer to the render settings in your file. Attached screen shots of using AE 22 (teal) and AE 23, (pink) using the same setup on both versions of AE. In the AE 22 Teal, it works great, the solid only covers the center section, where the object layer is set. In the AE 23 pink, the same object buffer covers the whole thing, like an alpha, not just the center. Something has changed between the versions.. Thanks, Jon

        http://download.jledit.com/C4D_ScreensShots-03-07-23.zip

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        • Dr. Sassi
          Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

          Hi Jon Lewis,

          Sorry for the delay; I try to reproduce the problem as usual. This included checking all three 23 versions, freshly installed. The Adobe update resulted in an 25::16 Ae bug, which was not solvable by Adobe's Support. Which also took the most time in my morning. Hence the delay in answering.
          I got it working now, and I got the file working nicely.

          Sorry for security reasons, I do not click on such un-known-to-me links. I think I mentioned that in the past. I just finished the lasted MAXON cyber-security training. This leaves me even more neurotic about web stuff than before 😉 Again, sorry.

          Please check the file from above again (updated), and take a look if you get the same result for Object Buffers as well. See the image below.

          If not, I believe tech support is the next step.
          https://www.maxon.net/en/support-center

          All the best

          Screen Shot 2023-03-08 at 11.52.46 AM.jpg

          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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            alcohol-efficiency last edited by

            Thanks much, sorry for the hassle with AE, that happens. Took another look at it, and it's the same. I see your ObjectBuffers in After Effects in the Multipass selection of Cineware, but it has no effect on the layer its attached to in the timeline / comp. I have reached out to tech support, haven't heard back in several days. A bit of a problem as I need to deliver the file in AE23. I can always render it out as a psd seq, but there are a lot of them, and we needed the flexibility of going back and forth to C4D.
            Thanks again on it, Jon Lewis

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            • Dr. Sassi
              Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

              Thank you, Jon Lewis,

              Sorry about the delay from tech support. Not what we like to have.

              I assume you are familiar with the 2023 or v23 Track Matte changes? To make sure we can exclude this.

              Attached is an Ae file that needs the C4D file from above.

              Cheers

              All the best

              Screen Shot 2023-03-08 at 1.27.05 PM.jpg

              [20230308_CV4_2023_drs_23_AEtm_01.aep.zip](Invalid file type. Allowed types are: .png, .jpg, .bmp, .txt, .c4d, .jpeg)

              Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
              Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
              Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                alcohol-efficiency last edited by

                Thanks, yes AE 23 is different for mattes. not seeing your attachment, if you can resend. Also how does one send files to you to look at now? Understand the cyber issues, did my training again last week.
                Thxs Jon

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                  alcohol-efficiency last edited by

                  The attachment came through, takes awhlie. And yes thats how I set it up.
                  Thxs
                  Jon

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                  • Dr. Sassi
                    Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

                    Thanks again, Jon Lewis,

                    [no attachments] I write the answer, save the post, and re-open it to set the attachments.

                    Files as ".c4d" should work fine here (small file size., so reducing to the problem or a dummy is excellent). I assume Dropbox, Google, Apple, Adobe, and Wetransfer are fine. Those have (AFAIK) file checking enabled, except for larger files, which I will not touch anyway. Sometimes people think it is OK to send one GB of files! That is not checked anymore by any company.

                    Yes, sad that we have to waste time based on the criminal behavior of others.

                    Thanks for the patience with tech support. I know others have chat options, but those are switching (more and more) to bots, which I find a slap in the face. We try to keep it personal, with the limitation of waiting time.

                    BTW, would you mind testing 2023.0 as well?

                    Yes, rendering is possible and has some pros and cons.

                    Cheers

                    Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                    Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                    Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                      alcohol-efficiency last edited by

                      Thanks, good to know. May have another question soon.
                      I was on AE 23.1 and the latest one 23.2.1. Super hard to change versions here. We don't even have the Adobe Cloud to manage our apps..
                      Thxs Jon

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                      • Dr. Sassi
                        Dr. Sassi last edited by

                        Any time, Jon.

                        Any question discussed here will hopefully help many other artists.

                        Enjoy

                        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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