@Dr-Sassi Thank you, i will reach out. It was happening in my project, so I tested it out in a new, fresh scene with default settings and default objects and the issue still persisted...even reset my system.
This is all thats in the scene. STAGE is the root null, but the issue mostly happens if i modify any of the settings of a cloner that is a parent of a primitive with a geom axis as a child.