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      Hermann last edited by

      cloth.jpg Hi
      I have a cloth sim that is draping from a collider object and I've set initial state and I want to pull it of the object after some time. problem is when I use cloth belt, when I want to select points, cloth object goes to flat state and after setting belt points it goes back to initial state and that makes it jump and glitch.
      Now my questions are :
      1- How to set cloth belt when cloth is in this state?
      2- Is there a better way to pull it off?
      3- Why wind and other forces does not affect cloth object?
      ![cloth.jpg](Image dimensions are too big)

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      • Dr. Sassi
        Dr. Sassi last edited by

        Hi Herman,

        Having the simplest c4d file attached is always good for seeing what is happening. Otherwise, we might end up with a long list of questions while perhaps missing the problem.

        Images can't have more than 500 pixels vertically.

        There are two ways, and the result differs, to attach a belt.

        β€’ One way is to go directly to the selected points.

        β€’Β The other way is to use the Current State Object and reset the Cloth Tag since you chose the initial state. Then, start from there.

        Setting the Damping higher, at least during the start, might help.

        I can't see problems with the Wind. Have you checked the Force list (if empty, it should be on Exclude), or the strength of the Wind Force need to be higher?

        Sect some points on the cloth and connect it to the Belt.

        All the best

        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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          Hermann last edited by

          @Dr-Sassi thanks again to you, a true C4D magician πŸ™‚
          I'm gonna test it now.

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            Hermann last edited by Hermann

            that soloution was awesome. BUT I have a new problem 😞
            Cloth is not sliding off of the object. when I pull it it stretches and then object goes through cloth. I want it to slide off easily, like when they are revelaing a prize car in a showcase.
            @Dr-Sassi

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            • Dr. Sassi
              Dr. Sassi last edited by

              Hi Herman,

              There might be many reasons, based on the object's setting or shape undernee=ath.

              Also, here, a c4d file is the key to answering this.

              If it is below 1MB, it can be attached here as c4d
              file.

              Please use Dropbox, Wetrasnfer, Google or Apple, and Adobe cloud services if larger. For security reasons, I do not touch anything else; please, no shortened URL. Thank you

              Cheers

              Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
              Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
              Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                Hermann @Dr. Sassi last edited by

                @Dr-Sassi Sorry I forgot.
                https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s4ABTpcST_QbnirOQtx6xE7HeusAZsVB/view?usp=drive_link
                my project file was a bit heavy so I made a duplicate and deleted everything that wasn't important.
                thank you for your time

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                • Dr. Sassi
                  Dr. Sassi last edited by

                  Hi Herman,

                  I have used the link, but was prompted to ask for access. I used my "no reply" email.

                  Cheers

                  Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                  Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                  Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                    Hermann @Dr. Sassi last edited by

                    @Dr-Sassi Sorry. I've corrcted the permission. Now you can directly access it

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                    • Dr. Sassi
                      Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

                      Thank you very much, Hermann.

                      Please have a look here; I feel that comes the closest to a sweet spot of time investment and stretchy-avoidance:
                      https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2024_PROJECTS_DRS/20240804_CV4_2024_drs_24_SIcp_01.zip

                      There are limitations to getting a zero stretch in a Fabric, which I do not know how to achieve while keeping it fabric-like.

                      The Stretchiness parameter can't produce a fixed 0% as the fabric needs to move around and bend. The bendiness (parameter) amount will not drastically change the stretchiness.

                      More importantly, the higher the mesh resolution is, the more stretching will show. Since this defines the fabric, there is little to change if it is a stiff or silk-like material. I have not found an option to get silk and nonstretch in on fabric.

                      Some. tips
                      The Text object should have bevels on the caps; sharp edges don't look good, but they are nearly impossible to use for simulations without many iterations.

                      If you have a practical, non-stretching fabric, if pulled fast, it might "fly" off the object to a certain degree. Consider slightly supporting that fly-off with a Wind Object from below to remove some friction and support the pull.

                      It is helpful to have the mass not set too high nor leave the gravity as it is.

                      I hope that helps

                      My best wishes for your project

                      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                        Hermann @Dr. Sassi last edited by

                        @Dr-Sassi You are amazing. this is the best I've seen. I've searched the whole internet, and believe me there is nothing regarding cloth pulling.

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                        • Dr. Sassi
                          Dr. Sassi last edited by

                          You are very kind, Hermann; thank you very much.

                          There is always a feeling that it could be better, given that we all have a lifelong experience with fabric. πŸ˜‰

                          Have a great weekend, and thanks again.

                          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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