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  • Dr. Sassi
    Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jan 20, 2024, 6:22 AM Jan 17, 2024, 6:25 PM

    Moving post here

    Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
    Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
    Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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    • target-photo
      target-photo last edited by Jan 17, 2024, 3:28 PM

      Hi me again...
      imagine a zylinder r = 100 , hight = 5
      now I want do bend it like a membrane (border does not move)... how to do this?
      I tried it with a half sphere, animating G(y)... but this does not work well, because when thickness = 0, particles pass through...
      I need a cylinder with some thickness... can you help me again? Thank's Henri

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      • Dr. Sassi
        Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jan 17, 2024, 6:49 PM Jan 17, 2024, 6:29 PM

        Hi Henri,

        Please no new question/themes in an existing forum's thread. Thank you. That helps to keep things searchable. 🙂

        Here is an example:
        CV4_2024_drs_24_MOmb_01.c4d

        The shape is based on the Remapping> Contour

        Let me know if that works for you.

        All the best

        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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        • target-photo
          target-photo last edited by Jan 17, 2024, 6:54 PM

          Membrane.jpg

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          • Referenced by  Dr. Sassi Dr. Sassi Jan 17, 2024, 7:03 PM
          • Dr. Sassi
            Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jan 17, 2024, 7:08 PM Jan 17, 2024, 7:08 PM

            Henri,

            Here is an updated version based on the image you posted.
            CV4_2024_drs_24_MOmb_02.c4d

            Cheers

            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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            • target-photo
              target-photo last edited by target-photo Jan 17, 2024, 7:22 PM Jan 17, 2024, 7:09 PM

              rehello
              perfect solution! The capacity is represented by the membrane (her tension is the voltage in my model)
              now I will animate the cylinder filed 0... 100 %
              please tell me what is the best way to bend in opposite direction ?
              ufff... i am such a beginner...
              Sorry animate the cylinder filed in the Displacer

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              • Dr. Sassi
                Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jan 17, 2024, 7:30 PM Jan 17, 2024, 7:27 PM

                Thanks for the extra information, Henri,

                Here you go:
                CV4_2024_drs_24_MOmb_03.c4d

                Screen Shot 2024-01-17 at 11.27.46 AM.jpg

                Is this working for you?

                My best wishes for your project.

                Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                • target-photo
                  target-photo last edited by Jan 17, 2024, 7:32 PM

                  soooooo cooooool
                  mille grazie

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                  • Dr. Sassi
                    Dr. Sassi last edited by Jan 17, 2024, 7:35 PM

                    You're very welcome, Henri

                    È stato un piacere per me!

                    Cheers

                    Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                    Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                    Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                    • target-photo
                      target-photo last edited by Feb 7, 2024, 6:10 PM

                      Hi again... need your help 😞
                      I used your membrane (03)... perfect... for new orientation, I did put all in a null and rotated it... all good... worked.
                      Then I pressed something in c4d, and now all my files do not work anymore. For the vertical membrane, the membrane center moves up and down... if I rotate the main null (membrane horizonaly)it works fine again.
                      I did not find out, what setting in c4d makes this mismatch... 😞
                      Please give me a hint 🙂

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                      • target-photo
                        target-photo last edited by Feb 7, 2024, 6:19 PM

                        Bildschirmfoto 2024-02-07 um 19.14.57.jpg

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                        • Dr. Sassi
                          Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Feb 7, 2024, 6:23 PM Feb 7, 2024, 6:22 PM

                          Hi Henri,

                          Please have a look here:
                          CV4_2024_drs_24_MOmb_04.c4d
                          Screen Shot 2024-02-07 at 10.18.18 AM.jpg

                          I hope that helps.

                          Cheers

                          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                          • target-photo
                            target-photo last edited by Feb 7, 2024, 11:23 PM

                            1000 grazie! Works!
                            How is it possible, that it worked before... and suddenly in all files direction was on vertex normal ?
                            Have a nice day
                            Henri

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                            • Dr. Sassi
                              Dr. Sassi last edited by Feb 8, 2024, 6:48 AM

                              Great, and thanks, Henri, for the feedback.

                              Vertex Normal. That is the default. If I had known that you like to rotate those, I would have pointed it out.

                              All the best

                              Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                              Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                              Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                              • target-photo
                                target-photo last edited by target-photo Feb 8, 2024, 10:51 AM Feb 8, 2024, 7:56 AM

                                Hi again
                                this night I woke up and knew what was the problem... I updated to latest version of c4d!
                                In the old version you could put the membrane in a nul and rotate this... still worked fine (with vertex normal default)...
                                This changed in last version.
                                @U

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                                • Dr. Sassi
                                  Dr. Sassi last edited by Feb 8, 2024, 5:53 PM

                                  Hi Henri,

                                  I had no idea you were in an older version of this project; that explains it – I assume, as I have no idea in which version you were, even now.

                                  I typically assume the current version is used, and yes, I should have asked for an example file, which allows me to see all that information.

                                  Thanks for solving that mystery.

                                  Cheers

                                  Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                                  Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                                  Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                                  • target-photo
                                    target-photo last edited by Feb 8, 2024, 10:59 PM

                                    now 2024.2.0... before 2024.1...
                                    buona notte

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                                    • Dr. Sassi
                                      Dr. Sassi last edited by Feb 8, 2024, 11:03 PM

                                      Thank you very much, Henri.

                                      I will keep this in mind.

                                      Buona notte for you as well, it will take a while before I can call it a day.

                                      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                                      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                                      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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