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      nothing-tennis last edited by Dr. Sassi

      Hi,

      what would be the correct settings for vector displacement in C4D Redshift?
      I exported the Vector Displacement Diagnostic File from Zbrush to C4D Redshift, but i couldnt figure out the right settings.

      Thanks for your time.

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          • Dr. Sassi
            Dr. Sassi last edited by

            Hi nothing-tennis,

            Could you please make this link downloadable? Sharing is not working for me.

            All the best

            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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              nothing-tennis @Dr. Sassi last edited by

              @Dr-Sassi
              Hi,

              im not super familiar with the icloud service, it was set to:

              who has access: anyone with the link
              permission: can make changes

              i dont see further options, maybe we could give wetransfer a try?
              https://we.tl/t-Cd7TU1s4wS

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              • Dr. Sassi
                Dr. Sassi last edited by

                Hi nothing-tennis,

                Thank you very much for the files, and your patience with this. It is midnight here, and I will have a look in the morning into it.

                All the best

                Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                  Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

                  Hi nothing-tennis,

                  For anyone reading along, the idea is to provide an evaluation platform that allows us to see what "pipeline settings" will work.

                  The Vector displacement uses Red, Green, and Blue as X, Y, and Z values, seen as a movement from a previously non-displaced position. Often, applications have a color pipeline that tries to get the best guess about the color management used. But more importantly, as you can see when you explore the SNormal map channels, these channels are mixed in various ways. So, whatever one app prefers might end up eventually in a disaster in another.

                  So, this diagnostic option helps to find out what works.

                  The procedure,

                  In ZBrush, Create Diagnostic Files.

                  Ensure the RS Object Tag has the "Enable Auto Bump mapping" disabled. (Typical Displacement set up in RS 3D)

                  I use the Tangent and 32bit/channel float as settings. This means that while my Project is set to ACES 2065-1, the File IO is set to RAW.
                  UV and Normals: Smooth option.

                  My result: 25 is the closest to a sphere.

                  Screen Shot 2024-01-25 at 2.33.48 PM.jpg

                  This data is then placed into ZBrush.
                  Preferences > Importexport > FlipAndSwitch as well as Tangent FlipAndSwitch to this value.

                  Which sets the pipeline for the render engine that was used.

                  All the best

                  Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                  Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                  Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                    nothing-tennis last edited by

                    Hi,

                    thanks for taking the time!
                    Unfortunately i dont get a round sphere (C4D 2024.2.0, ACES 2065-1, the File IO is set to RAW, RS Object Tag has the "Enable Auto Bump mapping" disabled. UV and Normals: Smooth option, do you mean the Phong Tag ? Maybe you could share the scene file. Thanks!

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                    • Dr. Sassi
                      Dr. Sassi last edited by

                      Hi nothing-tennis,

                      Sorry that you have trouble.

                      I got weird results while the Displacement scale was anything but 1 and 1.

                      Is that helping?

                      I just have set it up again just now and compared it with the file from the post above
                      https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2024_PROJECTS_DRS/20240131_CV4_2024_drs_24_RSzb_01.zip

                      Cheers

                      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                        nothing-tennis @Dr. Sassi last edited by

                        @Dr-Sassi Thanks, great!

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                          Dr. Sassi last edited by

                          You're very welcome, nothing-tennis.

                          My best wishes for your project

                          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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