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    • Dr. Sassi
      Dr. Sassi last edited by

      Hi family-flow,

      Set the preview time to -240 and the end time to your target end time.
      In the Attribute manager> Particles, set the starting time to the same (-240).
      Call the Simulate> Bake Particles (start -240, and set the end frame.)
      Bake it.
      Now set the timeline back to zero to your end frame, e.g., 0-90.

      (You can leave the timeline setting (right lower corner to -240 and use the timeline preview bar to limit the overall preview time.

      Example
      https://www.dropbox.com/s/82pqslgxsib3lxa/CV4_2023_drs_23_PTpr_01.c4d.zip?dl=0

      Objects can be used even after baking.

      Let me know if that works for you.

      Cheers

      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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        euro-family-flow last edited by

        Thank you

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        • Dr. Sassi
          Dr. Sassi last edited by

          You're very welcome, family-flow.

          I assume it works for you.

          My best wishes

          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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            Marco Rabellini last edited by

            So that works, but how do I use the cache file without the "preroll" frames (the frames before zero)?
            I would like to loop the full particle build without the starting frames.

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              Marco Rabellini last edited by

              I just figured it out.
              In the Particle Group Cache tab uncheck "Use Animation".
              Then, animate the "Frame" parameter.
              I pre-rolled my 300-frame particle sim starting at -60. So my sim is 360 frames long. Once I had the Cache built, I set a keyframe for Frame at 0 and the another Frame keyframe at 300. It defaults to linear, so I just needed to set the "After" property of the keyframes to "Repeat".

              The "Help" file kinda says this but it's ambiguous as usual and took some experimenting, but glad I figured it out.

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              • Dr. Sassi
                Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

                Thank you very much, Marco Rabellini, for your patience and feedback.

                I will check the manual and share it with the documentation team if I get some ideas.

                We all have a certain perspective, and to take another artist's perspective helps to improve things. So thank you.

                My best wishes

                Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                  Marco Rabellini last edited by

                  Ha ha. IDK where "screen-paint" came from. Changed my screen name.

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                    Marco Rabellini last edited by

                    I always seem to run into ambiguous, non-helpful entries in the "Help". Should I send these to the "Suggestions" or is there somewhere else to send them?

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                    • Dr. Sassi
                      Dr. Sassi last edited by

                      Off Topic

                      Thanks for your support, Marco Rabellini!

                      Those suggestions are best placed here:
                      https://www.maxon.net/en/support-center

                      Please use the "Share Your Ideas".

                      If you have a few examples as a collection, it might help to see a "communication pattern" that is the main problem.

                      Or perhaps you have something else in mind, like starting with defining all terms, and then the text might work.
                      Or having more background information first.

                      We all have created a unique set of data and, based on that, created something that learning theories call schema (Piaget, Cognitivism). How much that connects with a provided text is the key concern here.
                      While no one working in this field is considering that there is a "one size fits all" solution, we have to aim for that anyway. The alternative is longer documentation or many versions as the next option.

                      Our current idea is to share videos and YouTube shows (Ask The Trainer), for example, where one can ask and get a different way of exchanging information.

                      But how we learn and what is the best way is a long and expansive "story".

                      Thanks for sharing.

                      Enjoy your weekend

                      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                        Marco Rabellini last edited by

                        Thanks for all the advice. I use a lot of those sources, especially lately with all the new stuff.
                        Sometimes I run into the classic "using the thing to define the thing", which can be a little frustrating, and will start making a list when I run into it again. And more simple examples in places would also help. Sometimes examples are there and sometimes they're not and I will make notes and send. Generally I can find what I'm looking for through Help or online sources. Sometimes not.
                        All the best,
                        m

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                        • Dr. Sassi
                          Dr. Sassi last edited by

                          Thanks again, Marco Rabellini.

                          If you can't find something, please open a new thread and please ask.

                          Everything that is discussed here will help many other artists at one point.
                          Hence, I believe in the forum and take time to answer carefully, never answer from memory, and check each time if something that has worked in the past does so right now.

                          Besides that, doing this in my third decade has given me a very special idea of what is needed and wanted, which I can use in return and try at least to improve things for everyone.

                          Enjoy your weekend.

                          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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