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    • MaverickMongoose
      MaverickMongoose last edited by

      Hi again Dr Sassi, quick question,

      with the particle system in C4D, is there a way to have the particles try to return to their original positions after being pushed away? Similar to what Mix Animation would do to lLoth or Folow Position would do to Rigid Bodies?

      I'm trying to create this effect https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOehIU0Egxq

      But I cant get it a smooth, its almost liquid like.

      Here's my attempt anyway, I couldnt do it with particles alone so I tried to do it with a mix of Rigid Body, but its not so smooth.

      https://we.tl/t-Y8oInCCcJL

      Im sure theres a particle tool that will do this but I cant find which one.

      Thanks again

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      • Dr. Sassi
        Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

        Hi MaverickMongoose,

        Going by the video, it feels more like "peas on a plate".
        They don't move back to their initial position. They just find a new place using the path of the lowest resistance…

        Please have a look here:
        CV4_2026_drs_25_PAhs_01.c4d

        Does it come close? (Please evaluate the RS Render View). It comes closer to your suspicion of "fluids".
        Screenshot 2025-09-16 at 11.10.28 PM.jpg

        BTW, as a side note to answer the position question: Noseman showed a technique to bring Particles back to a specific position that was recorded at one point. The key idea here is to use the recorded and the current position and define a specific Velocity with it, which moves particles back.
        https://www.youtube.com/live/4BXPxcRwVBc?feature=shared&t=717

        In a later show (12 days ago), he shared an additional tip to normalize the Velocity created based on such a position pair.
        https://www.youtube.com/live/MHZ5R3HfwWg?feature=shared&t=2597

        Enjoy

        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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        • MaverickMongoose
          MaverickMongoose last edited by

          Gunius! That works great, thanks for that, again I never would have thought of that!

          One quick question though, I've tried to recreate this but I've noticed the particles are intersecting. Especially around the edges of the heart shape as you can see from the attached screenshots from your project file (Seen in the closeup too).

          Is there a way to increase the accuracy of paricle interactions without using rigid body which will remove the liquid look? I tried increasing substeps and collision passes, iterations, but it doesnt seem to have any effect on the particles.

          Screenshots: https://we.tl/t-7uEgI9516A

          Thanks again

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          • Dr. Sassi
            Dr. Sassi last edited by

            Hi MaverickMongoose,

            Thanks for the kind feedback!

            My best guess, the size of the spheres and the "virtual size" of the Particles are not matching.

            Check the Attribute Manager> Mode> Scene> Simulation> Liquid> Default Radius.
            This needs to match to avoid this.

            To get a more precise resolution, please have a look here
            https://help.maxon.net/c4d/2026/en-us/Default.htm#html/OFPLIQUIDFILLEMITTER-FP_LIQUIDFILLEMITTER_MESH.html?TocPath=Simulate%2520Menu%257CThe%2520Simulation%2520System%257CParticle%2520Emitter%257CLiquid%2520Fill%2520Emitter%257C_____3

            If you have a Liquify Object working to turn particles into Fluid particles, there is a transition time to avoid "explosions": Ease In
            https://help.maxon.net/c4d/2026/en-us/Default.htm#html/OFPLIQUIFY-FP_LIQUIFY_GROUP.html#FP_LIQUIFY_CONSTRAINTS_EASEIN

            To get finer borders, use smaller spheres, or render on with Particles and one with Liquid Mesh, then Blend both, whereby the Mesh would be dull-black, and the spheres a little bit more telling about the light setup on their surface.

            All the best

            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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