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  • Dr. Sassi
    Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 11, 2023, 8:51 PM

    Hi Craig,

    Could you please check the file? It might be too large for the forum. Do you have Dropbox, Google, Apple, Adobe, or Wetransfer cloud options (I do not touch others, sorry)

    Yes, Doctor for Neuron, when Neuron means life and Animation means bring to life, my dissertation was about Computer Simulation, or simply put about animation/film. It is not an MD, just to be clear 🙂

    Houdini is a very specialized app, with reminds me more of working like in NUKE, Fusion, or back in the days, Shake when I take a compositing analogy, as it feels more like a spatial/animation compositor.

    However, whether I think it or not ;-), software needs to fit the thinking pattern and logic of the artist. Otherwise, it is a painful relationship. But when it fits, even steep learning curves are fun.

    I will look at your file when I get it—looking forward to it. If you need an upload link, my Dropbox has some space left.

    Cheers

    Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
    Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
    Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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      channel-blame last edited by Jul 11, 2023, 9:01 PM

      i have a Dropbox, can please send me a link? I used edge to spline for my path, for the lights; when I said "Dr." I meant that you are all knowing, omniscient when it comes to C4d, a compliment 😉

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      • Dr. Sassi
        Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jul 12, 2023, 3:27 AM Jul 11, 2023, 10:19 PM

        Hi Craig,

        If you have a Dropbox, then I don't understand.

        Anyway, I will leave this link for a few hours here. Please only the needed parts, as mentioned, that is my private Dropbox, and it is small.
        --link-removed---

        All the best

        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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        • Dr. Sassi
          Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jul 13, 2023, 3:56 AM Jul 12, 2023, 3:28 AM

          Hi Craig,

          Can I share the link here or what is your preferred option to get it back?

          Cheers

          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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          • C
            channel-blame last edited by Jul 28, 2023, 5:56 PM

            Hi Dr. Sassi. I hope that you are well. I have a question please, about 17 days ago, you provided for me a great solution, to lights traveling
            over/through a neuron. I was hoping to experiment with different color combinations, with RS of the body of the neuron. I noticed, that when I use a different material color, and Im sure to properly use the vertex attribute node, the emission/lights are not visible in the viewport, only when I render in the viewport. . Also, the "lights" are not moving when I render to picture viewer. I did this just to experiment with a render. Can you please tell me why this is? also, the way to control speed of light movement, I change the offset in the matrix?, thank you, Craig

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            • Dr. Sassi
              Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 28, 2023, 10:29 PM

              Hi Craig,

              I have rendered the file from above today since you asked. It works.

              When you say you have changed something, How can I know what? Could you please copy and paste the material into a new scene and share it so I can look at it?

              Cheers

              Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
              Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
              Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                channel-blame @Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 28, 2023, 10:50 PM

                neuron-lights-for-DS.c4d I bought some neat materials, have been too busy to experiment, but perhaps you can show me the way for the furure. I'd love to use your elegant solution for a mor interesting texture, thanks so much-CZ

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                • Dr. Sassi
                  Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 29, 2023, 12:19 AM

                  Hi Craig,

                  Thanks for the files.

                  To see any effect, the Emission> Weight needs to be greater than zero.

                  I got all four materials working that way.

                  All the best

                  Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                  Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                  Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                  • C
                    channel-blame last edited by Jul 29, 2023, 12:30 AM

                    thanks, but I don 't see it in the render view, as opposed to the other material which I do, is it possible to see it in the render view when i hit play?

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                    • Dr. Sassi
                      Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 29, 2023, 1:50 AM

                      Hi Craig,

                      Below are all four materials set up with an animated Vertex map. I rendered it, and all looks fine to me.

                      https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230728_CV4_2023_drs_23_RSve_01c4d.zip

                      Render View, Picture Viewer:

                      Picture Viewer takes the scene as set up, including Render Settings, and goes to work. Once started, any change will be ignored; it just works on the job it was given.

                      RS Render View

                      The Clapper board Icon works the same as the Picture Viewer.

                      The Play icon right-sided from the Clapper board icon will take updated information, but only when capacity allows it. The more rendered heavy a scene, the less likely it moves toward "real-time".

                      Editor View> Redshift IPR
                      Perhaps fast, depending on the size.

                      Anyway, anything I will say might not match your experience, except you have the same setup, screens, and apps running at the time of comparison. This goes into hardware, which I try to avoid at all costs. Not my place, as I think the variables are way too big. Things change constantly on top of that. So yesterday's knowledge is perhaps outdated with the latest update—nothing I like to invest time into. Thanks for understanding

                      Cheers

                      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                        channel-blame @channel-blame last edited by Dr. Sassi Aug 11, 2023, 8:55 PM Aug 11, 2023, 4:52 PM

                        @channel-blame [link text](NEURON-glow-does-not-work.c4d link url)-hi Dr.Sassi, how are you?-I am in a bit of a panic ;(-I tried to adapt your brilliant solution here to a new texture, but I can not get it too work. Is my attachment here? if not please tell me how to attach. My solution is not working, perhaps you can provide a solution for me. Please let me know, Craig

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                          channel-blame last edited by Aug 11, 2023, 6:14 PM

                          ok sorry and thank you, is it possible? my new problem that is to solve?

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                          • Dr. Sassi
                            Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Aug 11, 2023, 6:56 PM Aug 11, 2023, 6:53 PM

                            Hi Craig,

                            Posting in the wrong thread is not a problem; I only mentioned it so you know I moved it. Otherwise, it will be hard to read along for others.

                            Here is your file:
                            https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230810_CV4_2023_drs_23_RSsv_33.c4d.zip

                            Please let me know if that works; I have tested it on several versions, just in case.

                            I have increased the Mesh a bit, as the RS Tag will not have its "Virtual Points" being used for the Vertex Map, and without increasing the Mesh, the "Vertex Map Resolution" is too blocky.

                            Please also ensure that the information used by other objects, etc., is above the one that needs it. Top to bottom is the flow of information, and yes, with Priorities, Information runs more complex, but inside the Object manager, ensure you have all the "stuff" in a flow.

                            My best wishes for your project.

                            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                              channel-blame last edited by Dr. Sassi Aug 11, 2023, 7:10 PM Aug 11, 2023, 6:57 PM

                              Thank you Dr. Sassi, but I did send to you a "neuron" with my texture that I couldnt get to work; this file I already received, thx. If you did not get it what is the best way to share with you? thx, Craig

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                              • Dr. Sassi
                                Dr. Sassi last edited by Aug 11, 2023, 7:13 PM

                                Hi Craig,

                                This is the file in your post from above that you quoted; hence I took a look and tested it for an hour, and as you can see, I have changed it a lot.

                                I take Dropbox, Apple, Adobe, Google, Wetransfer could services.

                                All the best

                                Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                                Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                                Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                                  channel-blame last edited by Aug 11, 2023, 7:17 PM

                                  Thanks Dr. , I dont see a file? do you need to have me upload,? may I have your dropbox info,is this best way to share? my C4D file is called NEURON-glow doe s not work -file created today, thank you Craig

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                                  • Dr. Sassi
                                    Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Aug 11, 2023, 9:14 PM Aug 11, 2023, 9:01 PM

                                    Hi Craig,

                                    You mentioned above that you have Dropbox, so you can share a file, which would save time as you do not have to wait for me.

                                    But yes, here is an upload link. I will close it soon, as I dislike leaving it too long in the "open".
                                    https://www.dropbox.com/request/WuVjoux8ln4bBPozzM2G

                                    Below is the post that made me look into it today.

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                                    Neuron Glow Doesn't work

                                    Cheers

                                    Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                                    Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                                    Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                                      channel-blame last edited by Aug 11, 2023, 9:05 PM

                                      Hi Dr. Sassi. you are golden. I just deposited the file. I tried my hardest to make this work with my own, texture; I feel like I'm close, but perhaps you can explain where I went wrong. Thanks again, Best, Craig

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                                      • Dr. Sassi
                                        Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Aug 11, 2023, 9:32 PM Aug 11, 2023, 9:30 PM

                                        I see two materials in your file, Craig, and thanks for sending the file!

                                        Two materials and two setups; see below.

                                        In the file "…_34.c4d" I have piped the Color for the object without the Ramp so that the Glow can be adjusted independently of the object's color. The Color Of the object can have its own Ramp if needed, of course. I also switched the flare on.
                                        In the Ramp for the "glow," I have set the left side to black to separate the glow part. You will adjust to your liking, of course, but black is the way to go for demo purposes. The Weight had a setting of zero for Emission.

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                                        The second material, "…_35.c4d", was easier, and I placed my Vertex Tag into the Specific Node. The name of the Vertex Tag matters. More was not really needed. I also checked this one, and it rendered fine, even with many frames in a row with animation.

                                        https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230811_CV4_2023_drs_23_RSsv_34.c4d.zip

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                                        https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230811_CV4_2023_drs_23_RSsv_35.c4d.zip

                                        Fingers crossed, you have something that works for you.

                                        All the best

                                        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                                        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                                        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                                        • C
                                          channel-blame last edited by Aug 11, 2023, 9:45 PM

                                          Hi Dr. Sassi. these are great-two concerns if I may; can I presume that I can pump up the neuron color-material, it's very dark; also should I be concerned about your comment, " rendered fine, even with many frames in a row with animation"? I was hoped to render an animation for this, as well as a closeup for about 20-30 s , please let me know, and thanks for your efforts, these are wonderful! -Best, CZ

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