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Hi supermarket-doubt,

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The Softbody takes over, and the Skin Deformer is no longer in use. If you take other Simulations, the result is different, but the Hierarchy drives the trouble.

My suggestion #1, use a PoseMorph.

Here, you can use a Collision Deformer result, which can be applied after disabling the Skin deformer. Which might lead to a T-Pose. So, you might want to take a copy and, in the sitting position, set the Binding Pose to new.

Now switch the Skin Deformer off and apply the Collision Deformer to the Character. (If you like to show some impact on Character.) The seat must be positioned within the Collision field of the Deformer.

If the deformation looks right, use the Object Manager > Object > Current State to Object (CSTO) to create a deformed copy. If needed, use the Magnet or Iron Tool to shape the Character's details that come in contact with the chair.

Now, you can switch off the Collision Deformer or delete it. The result of the CSTO can now be used in a PoseMorph. Apply the PoseMorph to the Character mesh and set it to Point mode.

Drag the CSTO result into the field of the Poses. I suggest to use "no" for the Alert. Set the Pose Morph to animation and the Pose slider to zero. Switch the Skin Deformer back on.

Now, you can add the impact of the chair to the Character by animating or just adjusting the slider.
Example:
CV4_2025_drs_25_CAdf_01.c4d

My suggestion #2: Do the opposite. Deform the Chair Cushion. Typically, the Barcelona Chair is not very soft, but the impact might be visible.
That means the Character becomes the Collision, and the Chair Cushion becomes the Collision Deformer. Explore the Object>Restore Slider value of the Collision Deformer.
Example:
CV4_2025_drs_25_ANdf_01.c4d

Or, a suggestion combining #1 and #2: Of course, for a close-up, perhaps a little bit of example 1 and much more of example 2 might be a good balance. For the quick Solution, use a CSTO of the cushion and sculpt the contact area into the mesh. For animation, use the PoseMorph options. I leave that to you to explore, no example.

All the best

Hi Tom,

Here is an alternative, I believe that Dynamic and Simulation have their place, but I think a simpler and more controllable solution is better here.

The idea is to have a Spline defined (which you might have already) and use this in a Volume setup.
CV4_2025_drs_25_ANfg_01.c4d

This allows to define and animate the "thickness" of the material while animating a Spline Interface (see image)
Screenshot 2025-01-10 at 10.17.15 AM.jpg

This allows for a very fast animation setup.

An SDF Dilate Erode can be set up for a Global size change to create an even more detailed setup for the animation.

The cube is there as an example that the solution can be defined by a geometry Context (subtract)

Let me know if that works for you.

Cheers

Hi chapter-potato,

First of all, please DO NOT use the site-issue for Q&A question. Please clear your access here on the Site issue forum. Thank you. I will move this to the Q&A forum.

I can see that you have either N-ons or triangles for the caps.

This is the first thing I would change. See example. Is that always the best setting (Phong tag, Spline Interpolation, etc.)? No, it depends.

The spline Mask is tricky; if the set-up was done quickly, you need to check every frame. A problem can also arise if the two splines are not 100.00% on the same "plane." There are many guesses, some of which could be avoided with a file.

Typically, I would need a file; images tell me too little and often show a symptom only.

You need to ask your render-farm provider if they have the current version installed. In addition to my suggestion not to use N-Gons during render time, the Phong options have changed. If the render farm runs an older version, that can be a reason—just a wise guess.

Please check the options for the Phong tag here
https://help.maxon.net/c4d/2024/en-us/Default.htm#html/TPHONG-ID_TAGPROPERTIES.html#PHONGTAG_STYLE
… and for the caps, the Tessellation here:
https://help.maxon.net/c4d/2024/en-us/Default.htm#html/OMOGRAPH_TEXT-ID_CAPSANDBEVELS.html?Highlight=caps

Perhaps use the file below for some text about the render farm. Perhaps their support does this for you if they like to deliver quality and things like your file results in something you surely shouldn't endure.

CV4_2024_drs_24_RSrf_01.c4d

My best wishes

You're very welcome, nuno_motion.

Enjoy your project and have a nice weekend

You're very welcome, cyrilrueg.

Thank you for taking the time.

I wish you success with your project.

Hi creative-juice,

Use the Emitter as an Object in the Cloner.
(The scene has the Emitter stop at Frame 36)
CV4_2024_drs_24_MGpr_01.c4d

Start and let play the scene, then stop when it looks good.

Click on the Cloner, then:
Object Manager> Object> (Modify)> Current State to Object

Connecting and deleting could be another step.

Enjoy

Hi David,

Here is a little clip showcasing a simple procedure to use a Polygon-based copy to create a selection and then copy this selection to the generated version; here is the Sweep.
https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2024_Clips_DRS/20240224_Selection_Harvest.mp4

In that way, I have created the selection of materials for your project.
CV4_2024_drs_24_ANtp_11.c4d

You can send questions to ATT via email, so anyone on the show can prepare material for the question and produce more information, given the same time frame.

askthetrainer@maxon.net
Put in the Subject line QUESTION.

As a side note, perhaps explore these capsules
Capsules_Selection.jpg
More about
https://youtu.be/3DQKbJ2xWgo?feature=shared

Have a great Sunday

Thank you very much for the reply, Hoi.

Have a nice day!

Hi tie-version,

Yes, that is a good summary from the other threads.

I assume this Pepsi campaign clip was initiated by Goodby, Silverstein & Partner, the "Got Milk?" people. (A while ago, I took a course provided by the two founders; this was very exciting.) Perhaps you know more about it; if so, please share.

I screen-captured the clip and explored it. My first thought was, do they take only one animation and repeat it while setting the key colors differently? There are slight differences in each, so I worked on something easy to adjust to get similar splashes. Please explore the Posemorph Sliders. Pose.0 is for the main chance, and Pose.1 is for the little movements to keep things "fluid."

Please have a look here.
CV4_2024_drs_24_ANsm_43.c4d

You will add your own materials, of course, so I didn't set one up.

Splash_43.jpg

I hope that helps to fill your library of splash animations.

Saving this as Alembic before the Spline Wrap, might open up more timing options.

Enjoy your project

Hi war-chair,

Thanks for the link. Adding the time where your question is focused, e.g., 00:55 [min:sec], will help in the future.

Looks to me like a simple PoseMorph animation.

Here is a sketch
CV4_2024_drs_24_ANpm_01.c4d

All the best

You're very welcome, Pim; thanks for your interest and patience.

I used the Character Object to Weigh it - automatically, which needs a little more care in this case. Hence, I shared only the Geometry.

If you have any other questions, please open a new Forum thread.
I'm happy to look into it.

Enjoy

P.S.: When you go by part 2 of the DPP video and the Alembic tip, this would be the basic setup for the helix wave. Do some variations and then follow the MoGraph setups with the Keyframes.

CV4_2024_drs_24_ANhw_01.c4d

One more thing 🙂

Perhaps this works better for you and stays adjustable.

CV4_2024_drs_23_ANct_41.c4d

(If some care is given, it might be useable with the Collision Deformer for the "tube".)

Hi Dan, thanks for sharing your idea.

Yes, there are many ways to go; as usual, what is the easiest during the animation phase is what I would pick, so the expression has the main focus.
I think having many options is a great idea, and then picking the best for the current project.

Enjoy!

Edit: there is and Eye Rig in the Asset Browser /edit

Hi tradition-boat,

You posted in the wrong forum, so I have moved it here. Please sign in with the Maxon App credential to have access here. Thank you.

I would need a short c4d example of what you like to do.

All the best

Hi branch-drunk,

To use two Nulls, the Target Tag will work; eventually, you might need a third Null (Up-Vector) to avoid problems.

Below is a Spline-based solution with a Rail. The Rail field will be available after you enable the Tangent Check box.
CV4_2024_dr_23_ANrt_01.c4d

Is that working for you?

All the best

Hi fordmar,

A single Cloner with keyframes, e.g., with the Step Effector, is possible. But with a single Clone, the Group plus a six side UV is tricky.

The only stable way (AFAIK) to store the Group UV in a UV Tag (instead of frozen in a Cloner) is to have all the clones as single child objects under the Cloner for one side. (All of that is based on the fact that the images are added to the setup and not prepared per cube as a fold, which might be a lot of work.

The example above has merged those and creates an easy way to produce UV, while the Fracture Object splits Polygon groups. Those can then be animated. It is the most stable way for all parts I'm aware of. Yes, no single object is a clone with a single animation.
All of that being said, for cubes on each side, there is a different Puzzle-like segment of a larger image on them.

Cheers

You're very welcome, south-guidance!

Have a great weekend as well 🙂

Yes, entry-newspaper, that sounds odd. 😉

When I started learning Cinema 4D 25+ years ago, I found, after a while, the Command Manager. Back then, it was filled with "just" around 1,000 items. I went through that list and read the manuals three times over the years.

When I start a hand on class, I start with; I don't know everything. To ease everyone's mind. It is accurate, and no one knows Cinema 4D 100%. Even this morning, I was reminded of a feature I missed mentioning to a colleague's question.

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Why I'm talking about it? Take the 1,000 items, combine those with each other, and get a six to seven-digit number of possibilities. Combine three or more of them, and it explodes in possibilities.

It is impossible to cover the whole application while being aware of all combinations. I think I'm close, but wait for the next update and then ask me again 😉

Which also means, there is lots to explore that no one has every combined.

Enjoy the exploration

You're very welcome, Simon,

Please note that I prefer the Null/MoGraph Tracer setup over the Spline IK. But it is equally good if the Spline is used instead of the Joints in the Spline IK setup.

Cheers