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  • Chum
    Chum last edited by Dr. Sassi Nov 22, 2023, 5:19 AM Nov 19, 2023, 7:29 PM

    Hello C4d Friends!

    I've been opening some older .c4d files, and the Delta Mush I used when creating them is causing an issue. The entire mesh is see through when it's enabled. Took me forever to find out DM behaves like this, and it's consistent with multiple mesh characters I built at that time.

    I'm guessing it has something to do with a recent update? Perhaps it's related to my recent upgrade to Redshift?

    Thanks everybody!

    Post guru // Nice guy

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    • Dr. Sassi
      Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Nov 19, 2023, 7:56 PM Nov 19, 2023, 7:56 PM

      Hi Chum,

      I have set up a little test scene in R26 and opened it in 2024

      CV4_R26_drs_23_CAds_01.c4d

      I can't see any transparency.

      How is this file working for you?

      Cheers

      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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      • Chum
        Chum last edited by Nov 19, 2023, 8:07 PM

        Thanks Doc, unfortunately my files aren't behaving so well. I stripped everything down to the mesh, and here's what I get:

        (hopefully it misbehaves in the same manner)

        https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/8oa53ysybsjnnd6lgqljb/Pawn_.c4d?rlkey=rtf7shl8sejj8reftgxspqmur&dl=0

        Post guru // Nice guy

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        • Dr. Sassi
          Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Nov 19, 2023, 9:53 PM Nov 19, 2023, 9:52 PM

          Hi Chum,

          Thanks for the file; as usual, that helps a lot.

          Please have a look here:

          CV4_2024_drs_23_MOds_01.c4d

          If you encounter similar problems, use the

          "Main Menu> Mesh> Remove> Optimize" function.

          All the best

          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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          • Chum
            Chum last edited by Nov 19, 2023, 10:35 PM

            Thank you, Doc,

            Can you please explain how optimize works in this instance? The only time I've used this function was to weld points close together.

            Post guru // Nice guy

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            • Dr. Sassi
              Dr. Sassi last edited by Nov 20, 2023, 1:56 AM

              You're very welcome, Chum!

              Select the Polygon object, and go to Object Manager> Object> Object Information. 2506 Points. Close that message window.

              Then, use the optimize function.

              After that, go again to the Object Information: 2468 Point.

              Somehow, there was twice the information in some areas.

              How did I got there? Gut-feeling. There is no logic or previous case that acted in that way.

              The Delta Smooth was working after that. Which I think was the target.

              Cheers

              Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
              Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
              Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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