Hi!
And... it works!
So... this has been such a long journey, it feels like the hierarchy thing in Cinema 4D drives me crazy from time to time...

The Reset PSR was the key, because I can't assign materials from the Cloner.
About the Connect, I don't see any difference… and no, this project started already in C4D 2026.0.0.

Thank you so so much!

Hi,
You just stop on the alembic step, and yes, it works there, it always did, but:
I should transform the alembic into a keyframe baking (as I show you in the videos) So, I go with my alembic into timeline, bake frames and here is the problem, the same happens if you (in the alembic object) make a current state to object, it changes the object position.
Just try to make a current state to object in your current alembic object:

1. Case 1. If you have your materials applied on the alembic object, once you do the current state to object, the object will change its position.
2. Case 2, if the alembic object DOES NOT have any materials applied, once you do the current state to object (or the keyframe baking) it works!! because it keeps the same position as it was. But we now have to assing materials again.
   That is the issue I need to solve.

But, enjoy your free week, I will do manually but I really need to know when you're back how can this can be fixed, please, is like a nightmare hahaha.

Thank you so much.

Hi,
No sorry, it doesn't work either.

About the second video, what you say about materials are not applied, I know. But if you keep watching you will see my point:
If I don't apply the material to the alembic (the step for example, you suggest in your last post), when is baked, you will see it doesn't keep the original cloner position.
But, and this is the amazing thing, if I delete the materials; when I bake, (or making the alembic editable too), it keeps the original cloner position.

Really I don't get this misterious thing. I think that maybe it has something to do with the null folder that carry the new object inside.
When you bake with the material applied, the new creation (making editable or baking it) comes inside a null. But if you make it editable or baked without the materials applied it doesn't appears with any folder, I think that could affect position.

Here the video, starting at the point you talk about in the last post:
https://we.tl/t-xWJMCpMPX1

Thanks,

Sure!, here is the video file by wetransfer:
https://we.tl/t-YnSBkMIBph

Please check: Alembic does keep the materials when using one method, but not when using the other. More precisely, it keeps the polygon selections where the materials are applied, with the materials on the same object.
I've double-checked everything, and once it is converted to Alembic (I tested the baking and everything is fine), if I send the material to the object layer, then the baking is wrong.

So it’s not the step of converting to Alembic, but the materials applied as object tags that mess everything up. It creates the new baked object under a null, maybe that has something to do with it, but I don’t understand why this happens.
I don’t need to export my Alembic to any other program, it’s just a previous step to bake the animation, and I need the animation with the polygon selection tags and the materials assigned to each object.
This is an example, but the real project is more complicated, so I hope not to have to put all the materials on each object one by one.

I’ve made another video showing the last thing I explained too, you have it in the wetransfer link.

Thanks!

Hi there!
I should make a loop animation with a cloner. So I follow these steps:

I have my animation done
Then I convert cloner into alembic
Then bake objects... and HERE IS THE PROBLEM, IN THE MIDDLE.

So, the problem is:

• If I convert the alembic as TEST 1 (please check c4d file) , so a cloner with an object inside with colours applied, the alembic respect the colours, but when baking it doesn't keep positions
• But, I NEED to conserve that colours AND positions, so if I put the object inside a null, or a connect, it doesn't keep the colours but if then I bake it, it keep positions...

I tried almost everything, I put the colours inside of the connect too, but it doesn't work either.

I've attached a video file, as I think it's better to understand what I'm trying to say + the file. Link for the video file here (sorry it doesn't let me upload it here):
https://limewire.com/d/vYqJ2#BDgQ2sZ5No
problem alembic.c4d

Please help...

Hi!
Thank you so much! I know I have to dive into XPresso; I just tried to avoid it as much as I could...
I definitely will try that in the next project. I've already done that with the HUD and it works quite well.

Thank you, thank you!! you always answer so quickly and you're so professional

Thanks!
I already had them on the HUD, and that’s of course one way, but I know I’ve seen someone who had all those sliders in a separate floating window, could that be Xpresso?
Is it very difficult to make?

HI!
I have multiple objects on scene, each one with a mospline where I want to animate the bend deformer
I want to keyframe that bend of each object

I see somewhere that I could have a new window with all that sliders, instead of going to each group/mospline/bend...

I could't find a solution as I think I don't know how to look for, any idea?

Thanks!

Thank you so much!, that video is just what I was looking for, it was a hierarchy problem, as always!. Just to place the mesh into the cloner and not into the object, cool!

Hi!,
I have a High poly object with a mesh deformer (the old "cage") and a low poly object linked to it.
I then applied a soft body tag, and it works perfect. I see the high poly object behaving as a soft body.
But, what if I want to clone it?. Do I have to do it manually?
Or I can use the cloner tool?. I tried but, of course it doesn't work as easily.

I attached the disposition I have at the moment.

Thank you in advance!