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  • arnaud
    arnaud last edited by arnaud Feb 20, 2025, 3:04 PM Feb 20, 2025, 3:03 PM

    Hi Dr Sassi,

    I'd like to reproduce a similar effect as demonstated on this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tpgc_pHRl4

    A cutting tool removing chips of metal on a metal bare.

    I've tried different approaches to simulate the process of this tool, for the moment none of them makes sense to me.
    Doing it with a deformer will not help as I can't animate the way I want it. Then I thought I could do it with a counter shape and boolean it with the bare, but this is becoming also pretty complicated. My best bet is probably morphing the shape from a state to an other. But I don't know how to reproduce the morphing effect radially, as it should..

    Maybe you have an other idea?

    Thank you for your help.

    Cheers,
    Arnaud

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    • Dr. Sassi
      Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Feb 20, 2025, 9:31 PM Feb 20, 2025, 9:28 PM

      Hi Arnaud,

      The formula in the video would find its way into a Formula Effector and is then roughly this:
      sin(((id / count) + 0) * f * 360.0)+(id/count)
      This means a Sine curve that adds slightly over time (the +(id/count) part).

      Based on that, I created the Loft-Cloner setup and harvested from it the Spline that drives the "knife" or "tool".

      Here is an example:
      CV4_2025_drs_25_ANco_01.c4d

      Screenshot 2025-02-20 at 1.30.03 PM.jpg

      My best wishes for your project

      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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      • arnaud
        arnaud last edited by arnaud Feb 20, 2025, 10:34 PM Feb 20, 2025, 10:16 PM

        Dear Dr Sassi,

        I really appreciate your help, the time you spend to make these examples to make us understand the way C4D works. I was thinking of a loft this afternoon, but had no clue how to animate it in this fashion!

        I would love to continue your setup, but honnestly I have absolutely no clue how to drive this formula to continue the cuting after the 1st turn.
        To be honnest, I never been really good in math and I don't understand the way to drive those formulas.
        Is it possible to animate on the fly a different behaviour in the formula based on these oscillations?
        So I can replicate what is on the graph (on the video), it's apparently doing a first turn (the red path) then it can oscillate for multiple turns always chopping a bit of the metal (always repeating the red path and then the blue). As now I have the first part (red path, thank you!) how can I initiate the second path (the blue one)? Doing an other formula?

        Sorry if I ask silly questions, I understand most of the things you did, but the formula part is still very opaque..

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        • Dr. Sassi
          Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Feb 21, 2025, 7:01 AM Feb 21, 2025, 6:58 AM

          Hi Arnaud,

          Thanks for the kind feedback.

          Please have a look here:
          CV4_2025_drs_25_ANco_11.c4d

          Screenshot 2025-02-20 at 10.58.46 PM.jpg

          Switch the Volume Objects on after you run the time project one time from frame zero to the end.

          The Nulls are either a rig or the two information sources for the Tracer (one main, one rail)

          To keep the current position of the Tracer result, I rotate the setup in one direction and then all of it in the opposite. I hope that makes sense.
          This is a solution with no math; you just create a volume and subtract it from the cylinder.

          Enjoy

          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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          • arnaud
            arnaud @Dr. Sassi last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 7:58 AM

            Dear Dr Sassi,

            This was absolutely the solution I was after.
            With a counter-form and easily animated with keyframe.

            Thank you so much!

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            • Dr. Sassi
              Dr. Sassi last edited by Feb 21, 2025, 6:45 PM

              You're very welcome, Arnaud!

              Thanks for the feedback.

              My best wishes for your project.

              Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
              Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
              Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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