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      road-conclusion @Dr. Sassi last edited by

      @Dr-Sassi Thank you! for all the information. I attached the project file, included the plane that i created.

      Buckle-Bake.c4d

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          road-conclusion @Dr. Sassi last edited by

          @Dr-Sassi also as an information after my previous reply.. , i am trying to bake normal map and AO onto a plane because i am going to use that image as a texture in another software (CLO3d), I am creating a buckle from fabric and would like to add the image as a texture( graphic) so fabric will look like hard surface buckle. That's why trying to bake the AO and normal map on to a plane surface.

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            smckenzie last edited by

            In case you find it useful, I found this the other day. It's a native C4D shader that you can use to generate normal maps. It's listed on the homepage as NLinn Shader and best of all its free.

            https://c4dplugin.com/

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              road-conclusion @smckenzie last edited by

              Hi @smckenzie Thank you! for the information, will look into more depth but i am also trying to do the same for AO and it needs to be onto a flat surface

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                Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

                Hi road-conclusion,

                Just to repeat, as some might read on the post with the example file, to have that as a flat projection is a limitation. But set to flat and Fit to Object, it will work without UVs.

                The key was to fix the mesh first. Removing triangles, SSD, using the Volume modeling to smooth it, then Remesh it. I then scaled it up.
                By the way, I assume the little plane and buckle rotation was accidental.

                Please explore the file; the two renders are inside the tex folder.

                I have placed two stripes on the model, which need a transparent material (alpha) to get the textures fitted to the plane and the buckle.

                The camera is set far enough away to get no parallax.

                File
                https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230305_CV4_2023_drs_23_TXbf_21.zip

                My suggestion is never to replace skills and knowledge with a plugin. Plugins can be helpful, but history has shown that they might be EOL at one point. Your gained knowledge in finding native solutions will have no EOL.

                All the best

                TXbf_21_n_normal_AO.jpg

                Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                  road-conclusion @Dr. Sassi last edited by

                  Hi @Dr-Sassi Thank you! for the file.. I am exploring the file that you shared.. I see that you did it with render option not the bake. Is that correct?

                  In this case how we can have a normal map like this? Same buckle is used for this normal map .. , someone did it in Modo, not sure how he did it but i know that he used this exactly buckle that i shared.. and he came out with this AO and Normal map . I don't think he changed the mesh type but he mentioned he softened only the corners.

                  Normal.png ao.png

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                    Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi

                    Hi road-conclusion,

                    There are different formats for Normal Maps: Tangent, Object, and World. All are useable, but if not mentioned, it is diffcult to know what you need, you mentioned some 3rd party apps.

                    https://help.maxon.net/c4d/en-us/#html/TBAKETEXTURE-ID_BAKEOPTIONS.html?TocPath=Object%2520Manager%257CObject%2520Menu%257CBake%2520Material%257C_____3

                    More in detail

                    https://help.maxon.net/c4d/2023/en-us/Default.htm#html/MMATERIAL-ID_MATERIALGROUP_NORMAL.html

                    Here is the buckle with a Plane as a base for baking; as initially described, this one needs to be fully UV wrapped, so you don't get overwritten areas. This one is done via baking.

                    https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230305_CV4_2023_drs_23_TXbf_31.zip

                    The image below is a jpg and not suitable for normal mapping, use the EXR, float,linear, as provided in the zip

                    All the best

                    Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                    Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                    Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                      road-conclusion @Dr. Sassi last edited by

                      Thank you! @Dr-Sassi ,, yeah the thing i am trying to find the way without UV unwrap .. but thank you for all the help..Appreciated!

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                        Dr. Sassi last edited by

                        You're very welcome, road-conclusion.

                        I want to encourage you to get familiar with UV; at one point, you need to have that skill anyway.

                        Have you tried my little drill? It takes perhaps less than five minutes.

                        Cheers

                        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                          road-conclusion @Dr. Sassi last edited by

                          @Dr-Sassi I know how to unwrap but some of the OBJ that i need to work on are triangles and changing them to quads takes time and also removes the details..
                          sorry didn't understand your question which drill?

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                            Dr. Sassi last edited by

                            Thanks for the reply, road -conclusion,

                            Sorry, I thought I had attached it, but if you know UV and avoid it for other reasons, please ignore it:
                            https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230305_UV_challenge_drill.zip

                            Yes, improving a model takes time, and bad models will take later on a lot of work to fix things, a balancing act.

                            I understand you have your ideas about this, and you don't want UV.

                            My best wishes, and have a nice Sunday Evening.

                            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                              road-conclusion @Dr. Sassi last edited by

                              @Dr-Sassi Thank you! have a nice evening to you as well 🙂

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                                Dr. Sassi last edited by

                                Very kind of you, road-conclusion, thank you.

                                Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                                Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                                Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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