Hi resort-sand,

Thanks for the file.

Besides that one "glass" being flipped (Normals), the geometry seems rough, but fine. Vertex Normals were also fine; I even delete Normal Tags if everything looks good.

The problem is simply based on where the Points relate to. The glasses with the problem have their Axis to the World zero point, well, very close to it. (0.0031; 0.0; -0.0002) while also a heavy scale to 0.04
The distance of the Axis to the "animated" was around 38313.4609 cm, -286.8031 cm; 1774.9519 cm, while the object was also rotated.

Two extremely different setups. Easy to fix: Select some points and use the Tools> Axis> Axis Center to get the object axis close to the object. All points, as mentioned, relate to this Axis. It is their "private world," AKA object axis.

Not a redshift problem, but a problem with the object setup.

Here is your file back. Reduced to the problem.
https://projectfiles.maxon.net/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2025_PROJECTS_DRS/20250821_CV4_2025_drs_25_MOgl_01.c4d.zip

All the best

merged object.

So far, I can see that it is a Python script option. Since this forum is code-free, for security reasons, please check with the experts over in the Developer forum.
https://developers.maxon.net/forum/

I will write a report about this as a request.

Fingers crossed, someone can help you.

There are some scripts available (google it), but please read through them carefully, as Python is not without risks.

All the best

Hi resort-sand,

Thanks for the reply, and the patience with this problem.

My best wishes

Hi, resort-sand,

The data is in the Emission pass. You can assign a Light Group to the Light Object. The Emission information is then separated.

Another way would be to use an Incandescent material. An example is below.

Render in the Picture Viewer, select Layer>Single pass, then explore the results.

CV4_2025_drs_25_RSpl_11.c4d

The Visible checkbox in newer version is now Camera (The slider) Camera Contribution)

Cheers.

Thank you very much, resort-sand!

My best wishes for your project.

Hi resort-sand,

Thanks for the information. I have removed the ticket number after copying it.

I have written to the Tech Support Manager to look into it. Besides that, I have asked the Training Director to consider a series or show about Team Render.

Fingers crossed, this theme will get an update regarding information sharing.

Thanks again for your patience.

Edit:
I had a little chat with the manager of Tech Support and checked the conversation so far. So far means, it is not seen as the final answer.

Be that as it will, I saw where you are located, and someone in your City often runs a show for Maxon, who shares your location; I can ask him if he would like to get in touch - if that helps. Based on your success, I think it would be a splendid match.) /edit

Have a great weekend.

Thank you very much for the kind feedback, resort-sand!

Thanks for the file!

Please have a look here:

CV4_2025_drs_25_SIbs_01.c4d
Variation
CV4_2025_drs_25_SIbs_02.c4d

I have added a Cube that works in each connector as the "stable" part.

Is that working for you? I'm sure you will find a better setting for the
Connector> Object> Object Properties> Angular Limit (From; To)

Enjoy your weekend

Hi resort-sand,

I'm not aware of an option to do that in 2025.1; there is an option that would disable that Alert. Perhaps I missed some information from your side.

Here is what I get

Screenshot 2025-02-27 at 11.17.20 AM.jpg
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The most effective way to restore the system is to delete the preferences.

Open the Preferences, then in the lower left is a button. In the folder that opens is a Folder called Prefs.
Inside is a file called Cinema 4D.prf
Delete this file and restart Cinema 4D

If that is not an option, please get in touch with Support.
https://www.maxon.net/en/support-center

All the best

You're very welcome, resort-sand,

Let me know if you like to refine it.
I'm happy to look into it.

All the best

Hi resort-sand,

Please check the Asset Browser: Pyro

• Incense Stick Smoke (Pyro)
• Lake Fog (Pyro)
• Steaming pot (Pyro)

Screenshot 2024-09-30 at 1.43.42 PM.jpg

I hope that helps to find your settings.

Enjoy

Hi resort-sand,

Is this helping?
https://www.youtube.com/live/9eHQtbjDpL4?t=1044&feature=shared
He adjusted it slightly differently, but this looks like what you ask for.

Here is an example, with a different approach:
CV4_2025_drs_24_PYsp_01.c4d

Cheers

Hi resort-sand,

Thanks for the update. The Property Transfer Manager can work with local coordinates, but the object axis needs to be oriented in a matching way and be object-based. In other words, all points relate to the object axis. If the Object axis is not set up comparably, the local transfer will not work in a matching way.

When I read Rotomotion and similar geo, may I assume that the object is textured and the texture is the same on both, or at least would if applied?

If so, a grayscale image could store the selection inside the Point Selection applied via Shader Field—just a thought.

Excuse my curiosity here: What I miss, not having seen the setup, is that you have the geos; what is the obstacle to not using the data to match their positions, etc?

As usual, having a file here, even just a proxy resembling the problem, I might support you in a better way. (If it is over. 1MB, it won't take thec4d file, then please use Dropbox, Google, Apple, Adobe, Wetransfer as cloud service only, no tiny-URL, for security reasons, thank you)

My best wishes for the project

Have a great Sunday as well, resort-sand.

Thank you very much for your feedback. 🙂

My best wishes for your project.

Hi resort-sand,

Sorry about the many steps. When I find something faster, I will add this here.

I explored how to do it with Simulation, perhaps with very high Sticky values, e.g., 100 (Rope and Collider both need to be sticky). You might get something.

Enjoy your Sunday