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    channel-blame last edited by Dr. Sassi Jul 11, 2023, 2:18 AM Jul 10, 2023, 7:56 PM

    Hi Dr. Sassi, how are you doing? long time- I do not see any older posts that you were kind enough to answer for me. Not sure when,7-8 years ago, I know, a while back, you had made for me some files of lights moving on a neuron, and I can not seem to find them on my computer. I wish that I can nail down the specific year, month etc. Is there any way to look on line here? Cineversitiy doesn't seem to go back very far. Please let me know, if you can, thank you as always, Craig

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    • Dr. Sassi
      Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 10, 2023, 8:34 PM

      Hi Craig,

      Perhaps search on your computer
      CV2_r16_drs
      If you know the release, perhaps try r17, etc.

      I hope that works; perhaps scroll through this:
      https://www.cineversity.com/forums/search_results/ebc934b9e4260cee930a7d5f35049ff9/P20/

      Let me know how it goes. You had nearly 300 posts in the older Cineversity, but I have problems finding something with neutrons.

      Cheers

      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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        channel-blame @Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 10, 2023, 8:40 PM

        @Dr-Sassi you are a gem!!- I need to look tomorrow, as I have C4D V21, on my other computer, not sure if these older files will open-I owe you an apology-I was using moving lights on a neuron, but I believe that you used a cylinder, sorry-I'll let you know if I can open, I have version 23, and 21, hoping that 21 works, Best, Craig

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          channel-blame last edited by Jul 10, 2023, 8:50 PM

          Hi again, the links to the files do not download, but thank you for your time-while I have your attention, you used Mograph to move a light object along the length of a cylinder, I believe; any chance that you wouldn't mind replicating that for me?, thank you, Craig

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          • Dr. Sassi
            Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 10, 2023, 9:09 PM

            Hi Craig,

            Anything of these headlines "ring a bell".

            Light along a cylinder, perhaps a little bit more details? ๐Ÿ™‚ Thanks you. Like how do you want to it to move an animate?

            render region output please?

            connect a null object to a selection tag?-possible

            can i freeze a pose

            Creating, Texturing and Rendering a Wine Bottle & Box: Layering Texture Tags

            alpha channel clipping problem

            lens effects in multipass question

            sketch and toon

            using a proxy object with cloners

            dynamics-intersection-problem

            intersecting problem

            spline path not showing

            mirroring a rigged model?

            Trouble with depth of field

            controlling visibility/invisibility with Mograph

            empty object manager

            Change Materials with XPresso-Dynamics

            modeling problem

            no DOF in physical render!?

            cloth cache reverse playback possible?

            Biped Rigging 1a

            Biped Rigging for Games, Part 08: Weighting the Legs

            problems with paintng weight maps

            morph deformer vs posemorph

            rigidbody tag "popping" problem

            copy-paste keyframes?

            object proximity to light

            Texture Slippage: Texture Space and Spline Wrap

            render time for GGX vs Beckman

            linking texture V-offset and Shader postion?

            visible texture-invisible model?

            C4D and after effects problem

            visbility-w/plain effector, not working

            collision deformer and cloner-not working

            looping an animation

            animation settings check

            spline-rig problem

            animation settings, just to be clear

            ProRes question

            new rendering question

            animation rendering size question

            controlling lights?

            platonic object question

            a motion clip tutorial?

            sculpt-question

            timeline-question

            rendered in color came out in black and white in AE

            using AVI formats in C4D

            Thinking Particles, PFragment

            loading dpeth pass in Photoshop

            recommended tutorials for animation clips and user data?

            glow not showing in render

            debosed letterd on a poly model

            hair and coloring?

            cloner in blend mode

            textures and clones

            painting issue

            bodypaint problem

            importing AI files

            proxies w/Mograph possible?

            not acheiving DOF in physical render

            Xpresso and deformers

            Pstorm vs Pborn and optimize?

            morphing objects

            rendeing not seen

            TP groups

            exporting procedural textures

            general aniamtion question

            appropriate filter for animation

            vibrating shadow problem

            can I separate cast shadows from the object?

            afeter effects/depth of field

            hand-sculpting issue

            Cheers

            Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
            Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
            Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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              channel-blame last edited by Jul 10, 2023, 9:18 PM

              it might have been, "controlling lights" you made for me a very elegant file ; you used mograph, probably a cloner, plain effector; image a tree, a light/glow starts at the base of the trunk, and moves north; as the light reaches the branches, the lights continue up along/through each branch, so each branch receives a "traveling light" -I will ultimately use a neuron to demonstrate the "light signals" traveling through the neuron branches, and I hope to loop this, Best, Craig

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                channel-blame last edited by Jul 10, 2023, 9:19 PM

                yes, I will animate this, Best, Craig

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                • Dr. Sassi
                  Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jul 10, 2023, 9:40 PM Jul 10, 2023, 9:40 PM

                  Thanks for the information, Craig.

                  I have the HarDrive's name, but the files' text sounds different.

                  This was eight years ago, and the drive is in the archive, which takes a while to find (It is in one of three cases with around 60 drives.)

                  How about you tell me what works with this file and what is not? That is so much faster.
                  CCV4_2023_drs_23_MGgl_01.c4d

                  Render it to see how it works

                  Cheers

                  Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                  Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                  Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                    channel-blame @Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 10, 2023, 9:50 PM

                    light-neuron.jpg @Dr-Sassi
                    ![light-neuron.jpg](Image dimensions are too big) I'll check out this file tomorrow, a big THANK you!-fyi, I attached a jpg of what I hope to achieve., Best, Craig

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                    • Dr. Sassi
                      Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jul 11, 2023, 2:22 AM Jul 11, 2023, 2:22 AM

                      Hi Craig,

                      Thanks a lot for the sketch; that helps. Why not do it with options we did not have eight years ago integrated into the way we now have?

                      Please have a look here:

                      CV4_2023_drs_23_REnf_01.c4d

                      Screen Shot 2023-07-10 at 7.16.46 PM.png

                      Press play while the Vertex tag is selected to get a first impression.

                      Enjoy

                      Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                      Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                      Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                        channel-blame @Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 11, 2023, 7:22 PM

                        @Dr-Sassi Dr. Sassi, hi, this solution is awesome!!!-thank you-will I be able to replicate this with a polygon model ? that is what I'd prefer; is there a tutorial on Cineversity that I can learn how to do this w/o burdening you?-Craig

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                        • Dr. Sassi
                          Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 11, 2023, 8:13 PM

                          Hi Craig,

                          First of all, you do not burden me.

                          The object has to have a high-resolution mesh, as the Vertex mesh works with points/vertices. The Matrix is used in the Vertex Map Tag as a Point source. The Point source can be adjusted in radius/diameter. This provides the light spot.

                          The key is that the Decay layer will create the "charge trail" of the Neurons; it has a sweet spot in the settings. I got that idea by searching images of neurons and how they "communicate". So the charge comes and leaves slowly, hence the "trail".

                          Perhaps start with a simple plane object and a spline to explore it. My model used the Splines as well as a base to create the shape, meaning that changing the Spline will shape the "body" but also direct the "light" with it so things stay in sync. Any polygon object, as defined above, will do if that adjustment is unnecessary.

                          Please let me know if there are any questions. I'm happy to look into them.

                          Cheers

                          Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                          Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                          Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                            channel-blame @Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 11, 2023, 8:32 PM

                            @Dr-Sassi Please see my attached file-my apologizes, I went from using Arnold a lot, to Redshift, never used all of the new C4D materials, pbr, etc, I didnt realize that you are using RS, which I have-I didnt realize that the lights were RS, which I am very familiar with ( DUH!!) lately I'm trying to learn Houdini ( what do u think of it? ) so I applied a base material first, here, light material second-this solution is really cool-I have never used RS for animation, anything that I should be on the lookout for?, flickering issues? anyway, unless I can think of anything else, you are the ultimate problem solver; no wonder why you are "the Doctorneuron-Sassi.c4d "-stay safe, Craig

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                            • Dr. Sassi
                              Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 11, 2023, 8:51 PM

                              Hi Craig,

                              Could you please check the file? It might be too large for the forum. Do you have Dropbox, Google, Apple, Adobe, or Wetransfer cloud options (I do not touch others, sorry)

                              Yes, Doctor for Neuron, when Neuron means life and Animation means bring to life, my dissertation was about Computer Simulation, or simply put about animation/film. It is not an MD, just to be clear ๐Ÿ™‚

                              Houdini is a very specialized app, with reminds me more of working like in NUKE, Fusion, or back in the days, Shake when I take a compositing analogy, as it feels more like a spatial/animation compositor.

                              However, whether I think it or not ;-), software needs to fit the thinking pattern and logic of the artist. Otherwise, it is a painful relationship. But when it fits, even steep learning curves are fun.

                              I will look at your file when I get itโ€”looking forward to it. If you need an upload link, my Dropbox has some space left.

                              Cheers

                              Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                              Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                              Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                                channel-blame last edited by Jul 11, 2023, 9:01 PM

                                i have a Dropbox, can please send me a link? I used edge to spline for my path, for the lights; when I said "Dr." I meant that you are all knowing, omniscient when it comes to C4d, a compliment ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                • Dr. Sassi
                                  Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jul 12, 2023, 3:27 AM Jul 11, 2023, 10:19 PM

                                  Hi Craig,

                                  If you have a Dropbox, then I don't understand.

                                  Anyway, I will leave this link for a few hours here. Please only the needed parts, as mentioned, that is my private Dropbox, and it is small.
                                  --link-removed---

                                  All the best

                                  Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                                  Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                                  Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                                  • Dr. Sassi
                                    Dr. Sassi last edited by Dr. Sassi Jul 13, 2023, 3:56 AM Jul 12, 2023, 3:28 AM

                                    Hi Craig,

                                    Can I share the link here or what is your preferred option to get it back?

                                    Cheers

                                    Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                                    Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                                    Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                                      channel-blame last edited by Jul 28, 2023, 5:56 PM

                                      Hi Dr. Sassi. I hope that you are well. I have a question please, about 17 days ago, you provided for me a great solution, to lights traveling
                                      over/through a neuron. I was hoping to experiment with different color combinations, with RS of the body of the neuron. I noticed, that when I use a different material color, and Im sure to properly use the vertex attribute node, the emission/lights are not visible in the viewport, only when I render in the viewport. . Also, the "lights" are not moving when I render to picture viewer. I did this just to experiment with a render. Can you please tell me why this is? also, the way to control speed of light movement, I change the offset in the matrix?, thank you, Craig

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                                      • Dr. Sassi
                                        Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 28, 2023, 10:29 PM

                                        Hi Craig,

                                        I have rendered the file from above today since you asked. It works.

                                        When you say you have changed something, How can I know what? Could you please copy and paste the material into a new scene and share it so I can look at it?

                                        Cheers

                                        Dr. Sassi Sassmannshausen Ph.D.
                                        Senior Trainer, Maxon Master Trainer, L&D - Strategist
                                        Cinema 4D mentor since 2004, Member of VES, DCS.

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                                          channel-blame @Dr. Sassi last edited by Jul 28, 2023, 10:50 PM

                                          neuron-lights-for-DS.c4d I bought some neat materials, have been too busy to experiment, but perhaps you can show me the way for the furure. I'd love to use your elegant solution for a mor interesting texture, thanks so much-CZ

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