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Hi anywhere-final,

Thanks for the information and demo of the problem.

I typically try to avoid these wild guess listings, as I think it is better to explore the file and provide a clear reply. Hence, I don't ask for videos or images; it is always the file.

If the selection is done, can you move the polygons up (P.Y) while the one in question stays?
For example, Select this as in your movie,

CV4_2025_drs_25_MOse_01.c4d

It looks like not all are selected, but one can move those. But moving it shows that it is selected. Switching on Normals in the Attribute Manager> Viewing Settings> View might help solve this secret.

I get the idea of the problem, but I have no idea about the geometry and its cause.
If you can share it via WeTransfer, I'm happy to take a look at it.

Here are some random tips; again, I'm unclear what the underlying problem is. (Considering that Polygons belong to the selected Object)

• Main Menu> Select> Select Connected (U~W)

• Attribute Manager> Modeling> Mesh Checking

• Main Menu> Mesh> Remove> Optimize. (U~O)

• Main Menu> Selection> Hide selected –– then explore how selectable the remainder of polygons are.

• Copy the model into a new project file, and explore again, while also checking the Main Menu> Window> Structure manager, set to polygons might help

• Select Point mode, then Shift-Click on the Polygon Icon. Any luck?

This list could go on much longer, but that is what I try to avoid here, and explore it based on a model

Enjoy your Sunday

Hi chocolate-argument,

Please share a file; images do not tell me much.
I can't see if there is a polygon problem or a UV setup problem, perhaps both.

Place your model under a Remesh
Select the Remesh, and Object Manager> Object> Current State To Object.
This new object is the one we use next, so set all the other objects to invisible and inactive.

Select from the new object all Polygons.
Switch to the UV layout/interface.
On the lower left is an Automatic UV; choose Packed and click Apply.

Place the material with the image on that new object.
Render.

If that is not working, please share the model as a c4d file, just the object in the scene.

All the best

Hi clerk-relation,

Since I write in a forum, I might overshare here:
I'm unclear what the AO (Ambient Occlusion) would add here. AO is a geometry fake when no Global Illumination is used—nothing to do with Alpha or Matte.
OR do you mean AOV (Arbitrary Output Variable), either way. The term Matte is perhaps used differently in Redshift than you would use it in Compositing, going by the file that you expect.
https://help.maxon.net/r3d/cinema/en-us/Default.htm#html/Matte+Options.html

For simple PNG and transparency, no AOV is needed. See the file below. Straight Alpha, with a separate Alpha file, to avoid the problems PNGs have with transparency, e.g., with Color Grading.
CV_2025_drs_25_RSap_01.c4d

This file uses just the simple PNG with "alpha" premultiplied, i.e., transparency, which should be used for web and similar uses.
CV_2025_drs_25_RSap_11.c4d

In AOV based Workflows, the Puzzle matte is used, using the RGB channels for three Materials IDs (Look into the Output Node) or Object IDs (RS Tag)
CV_2025_drs_25_RSap_21.c4d

Let me know what works for you.

Happy New Year.

Hi ordinary-week,

Double-click on the material Manager> material icon should always open the "Shader-Editor.

There are two types available: one you get while creating a new material based on the Preferences> Renderer> Redshift> Global> Node Materials for Preset.

Double-click on the two materials in the scene to see the difference.
CV4_2025_drs_24_RSvm_01.c4d
Render to see the effect.

The nodes that look like XPresso nodes are older and differ a little bit, There might be a time when they get retired; the other ones are newer and miss a few little options.

If you like to attach a screenshot, please max height 500 pixels, but if possible, save your time and share the project file; images often do not tell a lot. Project files often do better.

Sorry for the long instructions below:
If the file (c4d no zip) is below 1MB, then it can be attached directly here. Always reduce files to the problem, no 3rd party plug ins.
(If larger, I open only Dropbox, Google, Wetransfer, Apple, or Adobe cloud files, for security reasons, no zip, no Tiny URL, and no hidden HTML links, etc. Images please via the same services.)

Happy New Year

Thank you very much, RH, for your patience and the questions.

With each new option, all other tools need to be combined, evaluated, and explored again. Which is not a simple afternoon task, given the number of options that can be combined. With this, I'm happy to get those questions. Also, I do not answer from memory, but with project files, everything is changing.

I hope we will have a nice and colorful new year. I look forward to it.

My best wishes!

Hi assumption-fortune,

Thanks for the file and for using Wetransfer.

Going by the file, you like to have four letters moving like balloons.
Perhaps this is the fastest way.

https://projectfiles.maxon.net/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2024_PROJECTS_DRS/20241229_CV4_2025_drs_24_SIby_01.c4d.zip

I used the Thicken object to have the blow-up effect.

Cheers

Thank you very much, guarantee-topic, for the feedback.

I wish you a lot of success with the project.

Screenshot 2024-12-28 at 11.49.23 AM.jpg

Off-topic:

Thank you very much,

Going by your site, you do not need a lot of input, as I believe you are on that level of self-educating that is faster than most training can do, if not done in 1on1 sessions. But, yes, learning never stops; at least I learn constantly.

Realism is a wide theme, and with anything, like VFX, CG, or 3D in general, it takes 20% effort to get to 80% quality but 80% effort to cover the last 20%, whereby the point between 80 and 20 needs to be seen like a gamma point defining a curve between zero and 100%.
Besides that, I like to differentiate between realism, photorealism, and hyperrealism, which is a long and endless discussion. However, knowing which one is targeted might help accelerate the learning journey towards it.

How to become a Maxonian? The fastest way to see if there is a fit between current needs and qualifications is to check out the Careers site:
https://www.maxon.net/en/about-maxon/careers

Other ways are to certify in Maxon's products or go full into the Certified trainer path
https://www.maxon.net/en/certification
If you have a trainer Certification, you get some extra exposure.

This might result in invitations to present at shows and get more in contact with the team.

To have a great social media representation of one's work, perhaps using the #Cinema4D here and there might help sometimes as well.

All my suggestions are options, not a path with a guarantee.

Enjoy your work!

Perhaps this one fits

CV4_2025_drs_24_PAsp_21.c4d

Happy Holidays!

Thank you very much, Jakob! 🙂

Hi Rob,

Thank you very much for the file, and using Dropbox.

I have occasionally seen this when things get CMD dragged copied. I prefer to copy and paste, but I also use the shortcut route; it should work both ways these days.

When I copy the whole Object manager into a new file and set the scene accordingly (I missed only the fps; yours is 25, and mine is by default 24), the problem persists. If I replace the Cloner and set up the Cloth newly, things work here. Example:

CV4_2025_drs_24_MGfp_01.c4d

Please load this file into a new scene and check if that works similarly. Here, it shows up fluent.

I created three External abc files, via External and Cache Scene.

I loaded all three "abc" files into a new scene and exported them into a new single "abc" file. The one that is shared here.

https://projectfiles.maxon.net/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2024_PROJECTS_DRS/20241221_CV4_2025_drs_24_MGpf_01.abc.zip

Is one or the other working for you?

Enjoy your project and your weekend!

Thank you for your reply, Erwin,

There are no mistakes, only gained experience.

I believe everyone (at least in my experience doing set design or stage design work [Film-Architektur, as we called it back in Berlin]) has made this flip, hence the use of the term "Stage Left" which is on the right from the audience's point of view. Which is pretty much what happens here. It's a classic situation.

Enjoy your project, Happy Holidays, and as well a good New Year!

Thanks for the feedback, AlexC.,

You're very welcome.

Happy Holidays!

Hi Gabe Gonzales,

The User Data option is for convenience. Otherwise, you must open the XPresso Editor before your animation setup session and search for the right node. Doing that in a project after a month is not fun, and things get complex occasionally. The idea is always to work towards a setup that is not in the way of animating the scene. When one is in the flow, things must be simple to handle and able to focus on what is important, and that is never to search for a parameter somewhere.

Those User Data Entryries can be done all on one Object (or several), allowing for the creation of a mixer panel. From there, creating a HUD (Head Up Display) Copy in the editor window is also easier. Which can show up when the Object is active or permanent. Like in a car where no one would put the head-light switch into the trunk 😉

The Spline node is limited in this regard. If you like to have more, you can do it via Math. Example:
CV4_2025_drs_24_XPsp_01.c4d

Or just use a Helix and set the Height to zero, then increase the End Angle and perhaps the Interpolation. It looks like a circle, but it is so much more.

Cheers

Hi staff-produce,

If it is not the web address of a specific site, then please check with tech-support.
(URL = A URL (Uniform Resource Locator) is a web address that provides a unique, specific location for a particular resource on the internet.)

I do not have a list with Adobe URL's, and as the mentioned in the thread you quoted, I can only repeat this:
https://www.maxon.net/en/support-center
As I do not keep track of what Adobe does in this area, and if they change I would provide wrong data here.

All the best

Hi let-fall,

Thanks for your time. The idea was just to describe what doesn't work and what makes it work—a few lines.
Just enough that the developers can reproduce the problem and solve it for anyone who needs to work in version 2024.

But, so far, I can't find any entry of a reported problem that would match your findings. Since it was with 2024.4.1, which was not the latest of 2024 releases, let's see if anyone has troubles with 2025, and it will soon be no problem for anyone.
You found a workaround, so let's close this thread. Thanks for your reply.

All the best

Thanks for the reply, Capprim,

Have you explored the Boolean in 2025.1.?
It should work better with UV and Textures.

While there is always something that might overlap, etc.

A good command over the UV workflow is a good thing to have.
Please let me know if you have any questions.

Cheers

Thanks for the reply, tie-version,

Please have a look here:
CV4_2025_drs_24_ANwr_11.c4d
The mask is smaller, so it can hide the ripple.
The Offset of the Spline Curve moves it then inwards.

Screenshot 2024-12-16 at 10.06.32 AM.jpg

Is that working for your shape?

All the best