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Thanks for the feedback, Dutchbird.

As I write in a forum, I was detailed here, and the process might not be clear to everyone.

Have a great weekend.

Hi Jakob,

I would say that the Egg is close to the perfect shape of the Sphere and, even in the lowest setting, finds good coverage. Since this might be a point of debate, I would like to point to a case that shows how it works with visible changes.

https://projectfiles.maxon.net/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2025_PROJECTS_DRS/20250315_CV4_2025_drs_25_SIch_01.c4d.zip

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Now, the Documentation needs to be quoted to make the point:
"If set to 0, recessed indentations or recesses or holes will not be included in the collision calculation, but only a single "rubber skin" will be placed around the object…"

The Convex Hull is unlike a Tesselation algorithm that changes with the surface angle, like Adaptive in Spline interpolation.

For example, if you have a hole in the Egg, changes will appear.

https://projectfiles.maxon.net/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2025_PROJECTS_DRS/20250315_CV4_2025_drs_25_SIch_11.c4d.zip

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Have a great weekend

Hi cyrilrueg,

That is not a problem; it is expected and wanted behavior.

The pole defines the orientation of the virtual disc, like the dark green ones mentioned above in the manual.
This disc is the key to solving the IK. Otherwise, the joints would just randomly move around in space.

My suggestion to move it up and down was to learn its influence on the solved IK chain.
The Pole, as mentioned, needs to be placed properly to make things work in a stable way.

Cheers

Thank you very much, life-board, for the colorful feedback.

Looks like you created it as you wanted. Very nice!

As a little side note, and based on that I write in a forum, perhaps explore the Thicken Generator (Instead of the Cloth) to have some Selections already available, and you can stay in Thicken (and adjust) while using it.

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My best wishes for your project

Thank you very much, RemoGambacciani. 🙂

My best wishes for your production!

Fingers Crossed, Dutchbird.

Please let me know how it goes.

Again, sorry about that!

Cheers

Thank you very much, life-board.

Yes, questions about this thread are here; please put new themes in a new thread. Thank you!

My best wishes for your project

You're very welcome, Balakay612,

Please always feel free to ask. If it is an easy thing to answer, it is no effort; if it is complicated, it is typically time to answer it.

Keep in mind that others might have the same question at one point, and then, based on an earlier question, an answer is already there.

Enjoy.

Hi rip-fold,

I surely know that crashes are annoying. This is a good case to submit since you describe something you can re-create.

I can't do anything here since that would require checking the code and the OS for problems.
I'm not supposed to look into such tech-based problems other than to ask to send in the crash reports or contact tech support.

https://www.maxon.net/en/support-center

My best wishes

Thank you very much, entry-newspaper.

I hope you get the visuals that you are after. Fingers crossed that not a lot more exploration is needed.

Two mini tip:

If you need to have the particles sit on the sphere with zero radius, I suggest having a smaller sphere as a collider and the full size as a Sphere without a collider. This allows for a certain amount of traveling of the spheres without swallowing the particles.
CV4_2025_drs_25_PAcs_01.c4d

Another tip: you could create a Kill-Sphere with a Sphere Field inside the sphere.
CV4_2025_drs_25_PAks_01.c4d

All the best

Thank you very much, resort-sand!

My best wishes for your project.

Thank you, Pitchi,

I will ask next time when I am in a meeting with a developer. I would love to share first-hand information.

My best wishes

Hi background-permit,

You could set a User Data to your object, which contains the data you like to change, while you overwrite that User Data in the RS Proxy Object.
https://projectfiles.maxon.net/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2025_PROJECTS_DRS/20250307_CV4_2025_drs_25_RSpu_01.zip

Some random thoughts:

The idea here is clear: the included material is set in units, not as a fixed ratio. Following the idea of the size. I get that it is not wanted for your production.

I avoid the "Share Your Idea" with Maxon here, as it does not feel like something that can afford to wait.

This is not something I have used in production, so I ask you to test this carefully in your production.
I have very little idea about your setup.

https://projectfiles.maxon.net/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2025_PROJECTS_DRS/20250307_CV4_2025_drs_25_RSps_01.zip

I have created two versions, one as expected for 100% scale and smaller ones, while adjusting the materials for the smaller version. Both are exported as separate RS Proxies.
On Clone with one Clone output is used while in Blend mode, while an Effector is used as "Modify Clone."

That Cloner can be then used in the Master Cloner, while the Modify Clones is perhaps run via fields.

Which allows it to scale while the colors stay. AGAIN: not tested in any production. The idea of RSD Proxy is to optimize a specific state of a setup, not to individualize it afterward, which is counterintuitive. I would check if Instances or XRef are perhaps the better way.

I assume you have explored setting up the colors with Gradients or Normal shader and have not gotten the results you are after.

All the best

Hi Capprim,

Thanks for the files!

Is this what you are looking for?

CV4_2025_dr_25_XPsc_21.c4d

As before, change the Radius in the Cloner.

Have a great weekend

Hi resort-sand,

Thanks for the information. I have removed the ticket number after copying it.

I have written to the Tech Support Manager to look into it. Besides that, I have asked the Training Director to consider a series or show about Team Render.

Fingers crossed, this theme will get an update regarding information sharing.

Thanks again for your patience.

Edit:
I had a little chat with the manager of Tech Support and checked the conversation so far. So far means, it is not seen as the final answer.

Be that as it will, I saw where you are located, and someone in your City often runs a show for Maxon, who shares your location; I can ask him if he would like to get in touch - if that helps. Based on your success, I think it would be a splendid match.) /edit

Have a great weekend.

Hi Balakay612,

Thanks for the feedback.

Here is a less precise but much easier way. You might find the Range Mapper tuned accordingly. This means, set a start point of the radius and end point while defing the amount of start and end step.
To fine-tune it, adjust the Spline Curve of the Rangemapper.

An example is here:
CV4_2025_dr_25_XPsc_11.c4d
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About the file from the earlier post:

I used the Formula Node here, as it allows me to keep things compact.
This could be done with single Math Nodes, which might make it easier to read.

I needed to know the circumference of your reference setup, which would be the 360º of the 3668 radius (Radius 2 PI = Circumference)

With that, I was able to define step length using the 21º you have set up and the step count. ((Circumference*21º)/360º))/ Step-count = Length of a Single step or stair element.

Now, I needed to place that into a formula to have a different Radius driving the number of steps needed to fill the 0º to 21º you have as your fixed boundary.

I hope that helps untangle the XPresso a little bit.

Yes, sometimes Math comes in handy.

Enjoy

Hi OPS,

It's great that this works for you.

Thank you for the kind feedback!

My best wishes for your project.

This is great, thank you, Dutchbird.

I have shared a Report as well.

Fingers crossed, this will work quickly.

My best wishes