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Thanks a lot for the feedback, jacket-imagination.

I explored your scene a bit, perhaps putting a polygon selection on the fingers, and used that to place via MoGraph Cloner little colliders.

Let me know if there is anything else.

My best wishes for your project

Thank you for the update, deep-sea.

I hope your post will help others!

Fingers crossed, it will not take too long.

All the best

Hi education-tear,

Sorry that you have trouble.

Please check with tech support.
https://www.maxon.net/en/support-center

Please allow an extra day, as in several countries, Monday is a Holiday.

All the best

Thanks for the feedback, Bruce!

My best wishes for your project

Cheers.

You're very welcome, MaverickMongoose.

Perhaps a mixed version (Not solved as your headline asked for it in RS alone): where the tiles are produced in the Material Tag settings. So, for each object with a new Material Tag, you must set this up tiles again (if you don't copy it). This is the lowest stress in the nodes for a layered result, while you get your large repetition anyway. It is fast.

https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230525_CV4_2023_drs_23_REhx_02.zip
(This is copyrighted content, and we have no license to use it, I will take the link down soon).

I left the node for the 2K image from above in it for comparison; the HDRImage needs to be retaken from the Material (or Content Browser.)

All the best

Hi smckenzie,

Workflow, perhaps Workaround
Not a default option; I will go into detail later about it. This is a typical CAAD feature where the main modeling is static. The opposite would be a character and animation.
How to get this done anyway?
Ideally, textures are '2 to the power of X", as in 2048 pixels. If this square has a specific actual work size (not a pixel-to-cm or inch ratio!), just what a tile would measure, then do this:

Create a cube in the size of the tile. Place the texture on it while you stay in Attribute Manager> Material Tag> Tag> Projection: Cube mode. The Cube mode should fit the Object's size. Either use Object Manager> Tags> Fit To Object.
Yes, one could scale the cube and scale the texture if needed.
https://help.maxon.net/c4d/2023/en-us/Default.htm#html/5748.html#PLUGIN_CMD_12132

The cube that serves as measurement or reference can be set to invisible, which requires the child object to be set to visible.
Any child object below will now take this projection. This works, of course, only for any parallel surface in alignment with the cube. 45º walls need their own material.
Round or even spherical objects are more complex, whereby I have no simple solution for spherical objects and tiles.

Some notes, as mentioned above
There is no native option in Cinema 4D, to my knowledge, nor in Redshift 3D.
If there were one, then any Object scaling would leave the texture in the non-scaled size. That sounds like a nightmare.
Think of a bend deformer to have real-world sizes; how would that go? I doubt any application can offer that real-world measurement for organic surfaces as a nondistorted solution.

Archicad, for example, has that real-world texture mode and a connection to Cinema 4D (Same company: Nemetschek)

Why is it 1?
Textures typically work with UV. The UV space is normalized, hence the size one. So you place an image there with 1024 pixels wide. Set up your scene, then a change is needed, and the texture comes in 2048 pixels wide. With the normalization, that is not a problem; it will sit as before.

All the best

Hi fordmar,

I asked for the option to use "c4d', and we got a little over 1MB as the max upload. Zips are banned, as they can contain malware.

Use the letter icon on the right, near the image.

Enjoy

Hi it-lift,
Thanks a lot; as Architectural Visualization has a wide range, this information helps to get a rough idea about your work. What I see on your page tends to be a completely new challenge each time. Not the standard walls, windows, floors, etc. So you certainly have to invent for each project a workflow even.

Besides classic modeling steps or sculpting:
I first suggest taking a plane and cutting it to your needs in any shape with a Knife or Spline-driven Knife; eventually, use Selection Capsules or manual selections to delete while adding with the Poly Pen.

As a result, you might end up with a horrible mesh. Then use the Remesh, eventually with a Spline a Poly flow guide, and adjust a few times until you get a clean mesh. After that use the Thicken Object to adjust to an single or variable (i.e., organic) thickness.

As you undoubtedly know, modeling is like chess playing; always many steps ahead to win.

If you have something to model, or looking for some ideas, please share a sketch, blueprint, or project file. I'm happy to look into it.

All the best

You're very welcome, fordmar.

I hope the fix was easy and worked for you.

Enjoy your project

Hi Barend,

Since I write in a forum, I will always answer in a way that people with similar questions have use of my reply, so I always go a little bit more into detail. If possible, I have first-hand experience with it; otherwise, I mark it as brainstorming so it is clear that it needs tests.

Yes, I have not seen any Mocap in the past two+ decades that didn't need cleanup. Hence that was the main idea of Kaydara's FilmBox (Filmbox, hence FBX), which later became Motion Builder. A good average is 80% toward usable results, regardless of the system.

Yes, things might improve with tons of IR cameras, but those systems cost $100K and up. There I have only experience with it from way too long ago. Not valuable anymore.

With Rokoko, the best idea is to calibrate often, based on the motion you capture, perhaps per "take", if it goes wild. They constantly improve their system, and it is a sure thing to ensure running a newer version. Of course, as usual, early adaptors might get bitten. If you use Rokoko, take their offer with the one-hour hands-on instruction; it is a considerable value. Yes, I'm a fanboy here.

A good, even while old, book is MoCap For Artists, Focal Press. As usual, every source can hold a gem for you or steal your time based on your already-knowledge.

I would keep the Null Parent zero for P and R (S to one) and no animation. Also, while not knowing your setup, keep the Character object/Skin out of any animated parent Null. You might get double movements at one point.
In the Motion Clips, you can use a Pivot for that. Also, I keep the Character object away from the joints. You can decide how it is connected; see the image. They can live under a main Null, but there should be no mixing of information and definitely no distributed animation outside the weighting. In some cases we had here on Cineversity in the past 17+ years, it showed double movement. Not fun.

But you know better what you need, as you wrote, not a usual project. So I leave it here as a note, and you decide what fits your project anyway.

My best wishes for your project.

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You're very welcome, AlexC.
My best wishes for your project.

Thanks a lot for sharing your result, David.

Yes the Volume modeling is great for that.

Looks good.

Here are some ideas 🙂 I have used you edge selection to create a "Bevel", … stripe.

CV4_2023_drs_23_MOca_01.c4d

Have a great weekend

You're very welcome,

Speed set the Voxel size for the time of exploration as large as possible. Keep in mind that between 10 cm and 0.1 cm, the difference in amount of voxels is around 100^3 or 1,000,000. This is super simplified, but keep the values for the size large (Low amount!) and go only smaller (Higher!) when needed.

Perhaps download Cinebench and google for results to see how your setup works comparatively. An activity Monitor or Task Manager allows for some exploration if the system reaches a limit.
Switch off all apps and functions that eat into your performance. Google is typically one app that asks for a lot of performance. Enabling redshift only when needed is a current circulating tip.

Please remember that tutorials can be recorded and sped up, then the commentary is placed on top. The tutorial should be slower, as the screen recording is active at the same time.

I do not want to go deeper here, as this forum is not about hardware. But perhaps I have to suggest at one point to have an Ask The Trainer show about performance optimizations of hardware stuff.

However, as a friend told me three decades ago when he got his first NeXT system: Whenever something gets faster, we put more options in our software and have it a little bit slowed down in return. I feel that is not so much different these days. Of course, the primary trend is that everything gets faster (Silicon and code), and expectations might run hot at one point.

All the best

You're are too kind, background-permit. 🙂

Let me know if you need something else.

My best wishes for your project

Thanks for the feedback, road-conclusion.

I'm glad you have it working.

Enjoy your project.

Thanks, Greg,

Let me say this first, as I believe everyone needs to find the OS that fits their idea of producing content.
Not to start the old Win vs. Mac discussion from last century, of course.
After many years, I presume everyone got used to their OS, and I'm OK with that, just to prevent any endless arguments about it.

My personal take is:
I love to create and not think about the hardware and stuff; that's pretty much all. If there is a hiccup, it is muscle memory to fix it for me.
Well, and (bragging alert), I had the pleasure over many years to drive up to Cupertino and share some of my knowledge with the beautiful Graphic Senior Team there, which left me with even more loyalty than before. So I'm a lost cause if someone tries to convert me, 😉

I assume you enjoy it as I do, and I hope it stays that way.

Cheers

Yes, Dutchbird.

Since processing time becomes faster, I can see that as an advantage. But also, drives have gotten to $20 per TB, and even running the standard Project file/BU/BU (three places in distance to each other) is not a problem anymore, money-wise; keeping the drives alive, as they are degrading over time is. Another point would be whether future app versions can read the cache files anyway? I keep my old laptops here to have things available, like some old Quicktime codecs (e.g., Sorenson movies would be lost otherwise, as I noticed a while ago).

All the best

OK, sounds good, Heathenlamb.

All the best

You're very welcome, wheel-city.

If you are in explorer mode, perhaps have a look here.
https://stcineversityprod02.blob.core.windows.net/$web/Cineversity_Forum_Support/2023_PROJECTS_DRS/20230514_CV4_2023_drs_23_RSvm_01.zip

I have transferred the Color to the Vertices. From there to a MoGraph Matrix Object. This, in return, allowed me to place the data into a Color Vertex Tag for the Volume Mesher.

It depends highly on the point density of the Object used to feed the Volume. In the example I kept it kind of low.

All the best

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You're very welcome, entry-newspaper.

Little things, like a mosquito, can annoy as big things. I like to enable everyone to focus on the creative part of our work, not the tech-based problems.

I enjoy the forum's work, as I know that every question solved (fingers crossed, your question as well) will help others at one point. Having the solution or at least the discussion here might save some time.

As usual, a problem comes back until solved.

So, thanks for your question and your patience, and please,

Enjoy your weekend.